HCG Dosage wtf
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thetruepitbull
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IU stands for international unit.
There are 100iu in 1ml.
1iu is 1/100ml.
There are 100iu in 1ml.
1iu is 1/100ml.
Umm that's completely wrong. WTF are you giving advice on if you don't know what you are talking about.
Hcg doesn't come pre mixed. If it did, it wouldn't be any good. The vial should have powder, then you add bac water. You decide how many iu per ml. You use insulin syringes to measure and inject because it's a small amount.
With 5000iu, I add 2ml bac water. That gives you 2500 iu per ml. That means at the ten mark or 1/10 ml is 250 iu.
Hcg doesn't come pre mixed. If it did, it wouldn't be any good. The vial should have powder, then you add bac water. You decide how many iu per ml. You use insulin syringes to measure and inject because it's a small amount.
With 5000iu, I add 2ml bac water. That gives you 2500 iu per ml. That means at the ten mark or 1/10 ml is 250 iu.
thetruepitbull
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You are absolutely correct.
My bad, worked all night, and i thinks it's time for me to retire to bed.
My bad, worked all night, and i thinks it's time for me to retire to bed.
thetruepitbull
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You are absolutely correct.
My bad, worked all night, and i thinks it's time for me to retire to bed.
I have no idea where i was going on that one. Sorry.
My bad, worked all night, and i thinks it's time for me to retire to bed.
I have no idea where i was going on that one. Sorry.
Natehayes
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I'm not an expert, but unless I am missing something pitbull's statement was true. It did not answer the OP's question since he neglected to say what kind of concentration his Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) was, but it was a factual statement and answered what the OP actually asked (what is an iu) but not what he really needed to know (how to dose his hcg).
Not trying to be a dick, but just wanted to make sure I had my stuff straight. Putting aside the questions of a substance's concentration and talking strictly about volume isn't 100 iu's equal to 1 ml?
Not trying to be a dick, but just wanted to make sure I had my stuff straight. Putting aside the questions of a substance's concentration and talking strictly about volume isn't 100 iu's equal to 1 ml?
Misc
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nope your completely wrong. simple google search.
IU stands for International Units and is used for the measurement of drugs and vitamins.
Webster's defines IU as: a quantity of a biologic (such as a vitamin) that produces a particular biological effect agreed upon as an international standard
What this means is that IU is dependent on the potency of the substance, and each substance would have a different IU to milligram conversion. For example, 1000 IU of Vitamin C would have a different weight than 1000 IU of Vitamin A
Since each substance would have a different conversion ratio, we cannot put up a conversion for IU to milligrams that covers everything, or even most things. Just too many different substances.
thetruepitbull
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And this is exactly how I made my mistake yesterday.
coolhandjames
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i got this from some thread.. it's from doctor supposedly
I advise my AAS patients to use small amounts of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (250IU to 500IU) two days each week, right from the beginning of the cycle. This serves to maintain testicular form and function. It makes more sense to me to keep the horse in the barn, so to speak, then to have to chase it across three counties later on. I am also a big fan of maintaining estrogen within physiological ranges. Both therapies have been shown to hasten recovery.
Any more than 500IU of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) per day causes too much aromatase activity. Some feel aromatase is actually toxic to the Leydig cells of the testes. You are then inducing primary hypogonadism (which is permanent) while treating steroid-induced secondary (hypogonadotrophic) hypogonadism (which is temporary--hopefully).
If 250IU or 500IU on two days each week isn’t enough to stave off testicular atrophy, then I recommend using it more days each week (as opposed to taking larger doses). In fact, I wouldn’t mind having a guy use 250IU per day ALL THROUGH the cycle. Those that have tell me they thus avoid that edgy, burned-out feeling they usually get. They also say they simply feel better each day. Subjective reports, to be sure, but they are hard not to appreciate. Especially when Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is so inexpensive.
The testes are then ready, willing and able to again produce testosterone at the end of the cycle. LH levels rise fairly rapidly, but endogenous testosterone production is limited by lack of use. I also want to make sure a SERM, such as Clomid or Nolvadex, is at effective serum dosage (around 100mg QD for Clomid, 20-40mg QD for Nolvadex) when serum androgen levels drop to a concentration roughly equal to 200mg of testosterone per week. That is when androgenic inhibition at the HP no longer dominates over estrogenic antagonism with respect to inducing LH production. Of course, if the fellow has been doing Clomid or Nolvadex all along the way (and I now prefer Nolvadex over Clomid, due to the possibility of negative sides from the Clomid), he is all set to simply continue it at the end (no need to switch from one to the other). BTW, I see no evidence of any benefit in using BOTH SERM’s at the same time. I used to think a couple of weeks of the SERM was enough; now I like to see an entire month after the last shot of AAS (and migration of long to short esters as the cycle matures). Tapering the SERM is probably a good idea during the last week, as well.
I want my patients to stop taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) within a week after the end of the cycle. The testosterone production it induces will further inhibit recovery, as will using Androgel, or any other testosterone preparation, while in recovery. There is no escaping this, as there is no such thing as a “bridge”. Just because you are not inhibiting the HPTA for the entire 24 hours does not mean you are not suppressing it at all. IOW, you can’t “fool” the body—it is smarter than you are.
I like Arimidex during the cycle (in fact, consider use of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) while taking aromatisables a necessity) but it ABSOLUTELY should not be used post cycle (even though it has been shown to increase LH production) because the risk of driving estrogen too low, and therefore further damaging an already compromised Lipid Profile, is too great (this also drives libido back into the ground—and we don’t want that, do we?).
All this is meant to get my guys through recovery as fast as possible (the real goal, yes?). So far, all of them who have tried it have reported they are recovering faster than when they have tried other protocols.
Some good info for the OP
How to reconstitute HCG.
HCG usually comes as 5,000iu.
If you were to use 1ml to dilute this, you’d have 5,000iu/ml
If you were to use 2ml to dilute this, you’d have 2,500iu/ml
If you were to use 5ml to dilute this, you’d have 1,000iu/ml
HCG also comes as 2,500iu
If you were to use 1ml to dilute this, you’d have 2,500iu/ml
If you were to use 2 ml to dilute this, you’d have 1,250iu/ml
HCG also comes as 10,000iu
If you were to use 1ml to dilute, you’d have 10,000iu/ml
If you were to use 5ml to dilute, you’d have 2,000iu/ml
There are also 11,000iu batches
If you were to use 1ml to dilute, you’d have 11,000iu/ml
If you were to use 5ml to dilute, you’d have 2,200iu/ml
To find the iu/ml for a different number, take the total iu of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and divide by the number of ml you plan to dilute it with (for example, 5,000iu/2ml=2,500iu/ml)
The more you dilute it, the more accurate your dosage will be. For example, using 2,500iu/ml, if you were to inject 500iu there could be measuring error. Let’s say the margin of error is +/- .05cc. You could be injecting between 375iu and 625iu. Now, taking the 1,000iu/ml dosage, the +/-.05cc margin of error is lower (also using a dose of 500iu). The dose would be somewhere between 450iu and 550iu.
At 1,000iu/ml, .5cc is 500iu, .2cc is 200iu, and .25cc is 250iu.
At 2,200iu/ml, .5cc is 1,100iu, .2cc is 440iu, and .25 is 550iu.
To find the number of iu in any increment, take the iu/ml number and multiply it by the cc you want (for example, 1,000iu/ml*.5cc=500iu).
If you want to take a certain iu, divide the number of iu by the iu/ml to find out how many cc you need (for example, if you want 500iu and you have a dose at 2,000iu/ml, 500iu/2,000iu/ml=.25ml)
Using HCG
HCG should be stored in a refrigerator immediately after reconstitution. It can last about 4 weeks or so. Swirl it gently before injecting but handle it carefully. Letting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) go to room temperature after it has been chilled can damage it. If this happens, it is safer to throw it away and start over. When reconstituting, the reconstitution liquid should not be directly shot at the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) biscuit but rather run down the side of the vial. It is best to used a new, sealed, sterile vial for reconstitution. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can be shot either in a muscle (IM) or subcutaneously (sub-q). It is more common to shoot Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) sub-q to avoid scar tissue in the muscle. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is typically shot with an insulin pin to minimize pain. A typical 25-30g pin with a .5cc barrel (or as small as you can get) is recommend (a smaller barrel minimizes the margin of error). A sub-q injection is typically done in the abdominal region by pinching a layer of fat and injection the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) between the fat and muscle.
How to reconstitute HCG.
HCG usually comes as 5,000iu.
If you were to use 1ml to dilute this, you’d have 5,000iu/ml
If you were to use 2ml to dilute this, you’d have 2,500iu/ml
If you were to use 5ml to dilute this, you’d have 1,000iu/ml
HCG also comes as 2,500iu
If you were to use 1ml to dilute this, you’d have 2,500iu/ml
If you were to use 2 ml to dilute this, you’d have 1,250iu/ml
HCG also comes as 10,000iu
If you were to use 1ml to dilute, you’d have 10,000iu/ml
If you were to use 5ml to dilute, you’d have 2,000iu/ml
There are also 11,000iu batches
If you were to use 1ml to dilute, you’d have 11,000iu/ml
If you were to use 5ml to dilute, you’d have 2,200iu/ml
To find the iu/ml for a different number, take the total iu of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and divide by the number of ml you plan to dilute it with (for example, 5,000iu/2ml=2,500iu/ml)
The more you dilute it, the more accurate your dosage will be. For example, using 2,500iu/ml, if you were to inject 500iu there could be measuring error. Let’s say the margin of error is +/- .05cc. You could be injecting between 375iu and 625iu. Now, taking the 1,000iu/ml dosage, the +/-.05cc margin of error is lower (also using a dose of 500iu). The dose would be somewhere between 450iu and 550iu.
At 1,000iu/ml, .5cc is 500iu, .2cc is 200iu, and .25cc is 250iu.
At 2,200iu/ml, .5cc is 1,100iu, .2cc is 440iu, and .25 is 550iu.
To find the number of iu in any increment, take the iu/ml number and multiply it by the cc you want (for example, 1,000iu/ml*.5cc=500iu).
If you want to take a certain iu, divide the number of iu by the iu/ml to find out how many cc you need (for example, if you want 500iu and you have a dose at 2,000iu/ml, 500iu/2,000iu/ml=.25ml)
Using HCG
HCG should be stored in a refrigerator immediately after reconstitution. It can last about 4 weeks or so. Swirl it gently before injecting but handle it carefully. Letting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) go to room temperature after it has been chilled can damage it. If this happens, it is safer to throw it away and start over. When reconstituting, the reconstitution liquid should not be directly shot at the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) biscuit but rather run down the side of the vial. It is best to used a new, sealed, sterile vial for reconstitution. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can be shot either in a muscle (IM) or subcutaneously (sub-q). It is more common to shoot Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) sub-q to avoid scar tissue in the muscle. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is typically shot with an insulin pin to minimize pain. A typical 25-30g pin with a .5cc barrel (or as small as you can get) is recommend (a smaller barrel minimizes the margin of error). A sub-q injection is typically done in the abdominal region by pinching a layer of fat and injection the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) between the fat and muscle.
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