HCG Users

[Pitbull55]

Just wondering if any other vets could shine some light on HCG usage from personal experience, as dosing appears to be very widespread between users. Debating between:

1) running 250iu's 2x a week from weeks 3-12 and then a blast of 500iu ED for ten days between last test shot and start of PCT, stoping short of PCT by 3-5 days. Problem here is that HCG begins to lose effectiveness after 30 days and at max 60 days, from what I've read.

2)Running for only the last 4-5 weeks of cycle at 500iu 2x a week and with the same blast at the end.

3) Just blasting at the end as some users believe HCG on cycle is useless (but from my research I dont believe this and to me this would be the least favorable route).

Like I said just looking for personal advice from experienced users. Anything would be appeciated.

Cheers

 

[VengeanceX7]

Id go with 3. I'm one of those believers. You are shut down no matter what..hcg will not prevent you from being shut down but will keep your nuts normal size if they atrophy. Mine don't so I just blast. The 30 day thing is only for continuous use. Doing the 2x per week method isn't continuous use and hcg actually works better when applied as a pulse pattern. Also, using it as a blast saves you some money and also since BA water is getting harder to find and more expensive I recommend this. Day after last shot start 1000ius eod for 5 shots total and 10 days counting the off day. Thats 5000ius. Then wait 5 days and start serm treatment. Just my .02

 

[Pitbull55]

Appreciate it Vengeance. The more I read on route 3 the more I think I jumped to a concluson on it too early. Gonna keep researching but in the mean time does anyone else care to weigh in from their experience?

 

[adamjm]

HCG everyday will burn fat like crazy. Take it 17iu for 28 days and take a week break then do it again. Then do the blast for your pre post cycle.

 

[00pmac00]

HCG everyday will burn fat like crazy. Take it 17iu for 28 days and take a week break then do it again. Then do the blast for your pre post cycle.

Where would you come up with the number 17IU's from. It's impossible to measure out that amount properly to begin with.

 

[Iron Giant]

No it's not? My 100iu slin pins have markings at every iu.

 

[00pmac00]

Kinda doesn't make sense to me I guess to have IUs marked on a syringe. I have Vitamin A 10,000 IU, a tiny little pill and Vitamin E 400 IU's 3 times the size the vitamin A for a fraction the IU's. I would imagine not everyone has their IU's measured out at 1000IU/mg if in fact that is the base rate at which your slin pins are assuming the concentration is at.
But I digress Iron giant. I have never seen a 100 IU syringe so I assumed it to be a near impossible feat. Must be some pretty fine lines on those syringes IG.

 

[kfairhurst]

It depends on concentration, your vitamin a is just not diluted as much as the vitamin e. My slin needles are 1cc, depending on the concentration you could get 500iu of hcg in one cc easily. My TB500 is reconstituted so that 1cc is 2500mg.

 

[MeatHead96]

I like 250iu twice a week or eod while on, which is all the time for me.

 

[84BATA]

Do you use straight hcg or dilute with ba water?

 

[vladiT]

you can make your HCG any concentration per ml you want... remember its all about the math, if you dilute 5000ius of HCG with 5ml of water thats 1000iu per 1 cc or ml

 

[thades]

Definitely agree with vengeance about the validity of getting a "pulse" going. Eod>Ed

 

[84BATA]

but why shoot more than you have to is what I'm wondering... is there anything wrong with shooting non diluted hcg?

 

[size_matters]

HCG everyday will burn fat like crazy. Take it 17iu for 28 days and take a week break then do it again. Then do the blast for your pre post cycle.

This guy's probably talking about the HCG drops for fat loss which isn't like the real HCG...

 

[Pitbull55]

HCG everyday will burn fat like crazy. Take it 17iu for 28 days and take a week break then do it again. Then do the blast for your pre post cycle.

Adamjm, I was looking for advice with regards to testicular atrophy/natural test production while on cycle. Thanks though.

 

[Pitbull55]

I like 250iu twice a week or eod while on, which is all the time for me.

This seems to be the standard nowadays, that or 500iu x2 a week prior to coming off cycle combined with a blast between last test shot and pct.

I guess what I'm looking for here is someone that has done at least 2 of the three methods I mentioned when I started this thread and noticed one to be superior to the other. But it really appears to be dependent on the user just like anything else, what works for one may not work for another.