Helladrol 6 Week Beginner Log

Methodology

Methodology

I am banned!
Hi There, going to be running a cycle this coming September, I'm kind of excited/lethargic towards it, I've spent a fair deal of time/money getting prepared, and learning as much as humanely possible to figure out everything I have to do. Regrettably, I'm not in the ideal shape I thought I was going to be in prior, although I have managed to keep my weight at roughly 180lbs (seems 180 is my peak for now, after that point the shakes hurt to drink). Funny thing tho, I perceive myself as not being in shape, when in fact, probably in better shape than most people will be in in there entire lives. I've been completely shredded before (155lbs 2.5% bf), with almost no help from anyone else, so I'm confident my exercises will be more than enough to succeed where I want to most. Typically, I have the will power and stamina of someone already on steroids (no other way to explain it), in that fact, I work hard, and train hard, if you knew me (tall guy/small frame) you wouldn't think that I could lift the weight I lift (at one point 50lb dumbbells), well used to lift (form now, 25lb).

Going to display B/A photos, for the more inexperienced like myself, like dylan gemeli's photos were from a more professional BB stand point, I wanted to see if mine could show a zero to hero aspect (not that it really matters since PHs will be banned soon :l). I'm going to be on a relatively high protein diet (try for 4 shakes/day) which brutal for me, aiming for 2500+ cals/day, but I'm mostly wanting to either gain more size, up to 200lbs, or get cut at 180lbs, and with two and a half months of hard training and dieting, I'm sure I can do it.

My Cycle is as Follows

1-6 Helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 Forged Liver Support
1-6 N2Guard (5 caps before bed to stretch out the bottle)
3-6 HCGenerate (Kicks in the 3rd week, just before the harder dosing)
1-10 Creatine Monohydrate/Nitrate (if I can find it, I fucking hate days off that land on holidays)
1-10 Fish oil
1-10 Glucosamine
1-10 Vitamin B Complex/B12
1-10 Cell Food (BEST DURING WORKOUT EVER!!!)
1-10 Opti-Men Multivitamin (Temporary Sub ^^ Holidays -.-)
1-10 Mutant Mass Shakes (750cal/50g protein/shake)
1-10 Opti-Whey (Hydro if I can find it)
1-10 GABA
3-10 Forma Stanzol

PCT
7-10 Forged PCT
7-10 Torem
7-10 Unleashed
7-10 Lean Extreme

I don't think overkill is possible for a PCT, its my boys, my only concern is using Forged with Unleashed? Would it be like super testosterone, one that supplies it, and one that releases it naturally, on top of the Torem getting me back up to speed.

Workout Schedule (I'll probably get criticism on my methods of working out, but IDGAF, I did this 6 days/week for 6 months no problems)


Even Day (Single/Strength/Bonus*) - 3 Times/week

Mini Circuit 1 (Currently 25lbs)
25/25/25* Pushups
20/20/20* Lateral Raise
20/20/20* Shrug

Mini Circuit 2 (Currently 25lbs)
20/20/20* Bicep Curl
20/20/20* Beer Throw
20/20/20* Static Arm Curl
5/5/5* Arnold Press

Mini Circuit 3 (Currently 30lbs)
20/20/20* Single Trap Row (Similar to Kettlebells)
20/20/20* Trap Row
5sX5(2)/5sX5(2)/5sX5(2)* Arm Raise

Mini Circuit 4 (Currently 30lbs)
25(2)/25(2)/25(2)* Spiderman Pushups (Switch Arms)
20/20/20* Marching Lateral Raise
10/10/10* Reverse Bicep Curl


Odd Day - 3 Times/week

10reps/10sets Flat Dumbell Press 50lbs (Most weight I got, I workout with adjustables)

10/10/5 - 5 second hold in between sets Pushups (I aim for 6/6/3 atm, was thinking since I might be superman I might step it up a little)

^^ Set for Set Circuit (Pushup>Dumbells)
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Odd Odd Day Workouts (Just extra exercises to tune up abs and butt, since I'm going to have hypertrophy anyway) Mostly after my Odd day.

Glute Exercises

Ab Ripper X

Then finally stretches, then I got my own personally crafted power stretches, its my yogchi finish after a hard workout to prepare tedious muscle pain.

I think this about sums up my pre H-Drol Log.

Methodology
 
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This is literally the worst thing I've read about all day.... I'm sitting at my desk crying for you right now

Lean Extreme? Forged? HCGenerate? Every one of those is a joke. Helladrol is halodrol and actually a decent product.... but certainly not strong enough for a cycle by itself. You need to rethink this man, you are making a big mistake. I urge you to postpone this and do more research.
 
Actually, I have put a lot of time and effort into this, this cycle was referred to me by quite a few people, besides the fact that the next time I will be able to run a cycle would be after January if I scrap this, and I would be out $500 since I have everything already ready to start, I have heard that they are very reputable products from several people/reps here, either that or I just run on Vitamin B, niacin, and d-aspartic, and take a chance on some run of the mill on-cycle support from supp stores. Being my first ever, make it or break it, mild steroid cycle, I didn't want to take any chances in regards to a shutdown/sides, having only ran test in the past, I thought it looked pretty good. I'm a vitamin do everything naturally kind of guy, but wanted to take a chance and maybe from here on in, if all went well, I would run a harder cycle, like the S-Drol I got from elite paired with Helladrol (...Was planning on a S-Drol/Katanadrol Cycle but Katandrol has been extremely hard to find since the 2nd of August).
 
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I will love that you really know who is Get Some and IM 100% sure you will listen to him and not even do this thing you call a "cycle" about PH`s IMO and experience are a waste of time and money. I can do a real AAS cycle with lit less than $500 including ancilaries and post cycle therapy (pct) just saying natty guy.IMO that Ph`s star guy lol he is a fucking liar on what he posted on how much weight he lift and so. Do your self a favor d more reaserch get into AAS not Phs.

Dylans is full of shit saying he curls 90 and 100 lbs DB, don`t even waste time reading about this freacking liar
 
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I think your money would be better spent on a gym membership. No offense, your training is way out of whack. 50 lb db's should become too light fairly quick (for chest) for any dedicated beginner. I didn't see any legs either. I wont even bother with your diet and the prohormones, but c'mon...
 
If it gets light real fast, I'll just do more reps, its doable for me now, not simple, that's what the pushups are for, to break down my spirit. There's tons of people who have ran this, and besides pinning, its seems to be my best choice besides scrapping it all and just going natural like I always do. I don't work my legs, my legs are already in great shape, I don't want monster centaur legs. And sorry we haven't met yet, I know there are a lot of haters towards PH seeings how bad they are for you.
 
You don't turn into ''superman'' by doing those shitty wrkouts & drinking 4 shakes a day lol. Sorry man but this is seriously a waste of time.
 
Were not hating, just trying to tell you how it is. you want us to lie and say you'll turn into a pro bber with this cycle?
 
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So I guess everyone here is turbo hating on PHs, until I posted here I had only seen good things about them, and now all the negative comments come out. Doing those workouts you call shit got me into incredible fucking shape before, and I plan to do it again, I know more shakes doesn't mean more muscle, but I wanted to make sure my muscles were getting ample amounts of protein. I do appreciate the help, but I don't know what you mean by 'real' AA's tho (if you mean pinning, I know about that, this was just to be a tester cycle just to let you know, to get a feel), I have no standards for how much muscle I plan to gain, besides the 6lbs I can gain in 6 weeks which can easily be done without anything, I just didn't want to get my hopes up if nothing special happened. Still gonna run this regardless, I guess the other 100 ppl that have ran Helladrol and got absolutely zero results as you guys say, I see nothing wrong with adding Helladrol to my normal workout regime.

Edit: Given your advice, and it turns out to be a shitty cycle, you know at least I can try it out and see how it is, if it sucks just like you say, I can run a quick post cycle therapy (pct) and start over.
 
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Methodology said:
So I guess everyone here is turbo hating on PHs, until I posted here I had only seen good things about them, and now all the negative comments come out. Doing those workouts you call shit got me into incredible fucking shape before, and I plan to do it again, I know more shakes doesn't mean more muscle, but I wanted to make sure my muscles were getting ample amounts of protein. I do appreciate the help, but I don't know what you mean by 'real' AA's tho (if you mean pinning, I know about that, this was just to be a tester cycle just to let you know, to get a feel), I have no standards for how much muscle I plan to gain, besides the 6lbs I can gain in 6 weeks which can easily be done without anything, I just didn't want to get my hopes up if nothing special happened. Still gonna run this regardless, I guess the other 100 ppl that have ran Helladrol and got absolutely zero results as you guys say, I see nothing wrong with adding Helladrol to my normal workout regime.

Edit: Given your advice, and it turns out to be a shitty cycle, you know at least I can try it out and see how it is, if it sucks just like you say, I can run a quick post cycle therapy (pct) and start over.
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sweet deal man i hoe it does what you want it to keep us posted on the results!
 
This world will be a better place when the recent PH ban goes into effect. So sick of telling people how much their BP, cholesterol, and liver values will be trashed for very little gains.


Methodology.... NO ONE can stop you from doing this cycle. But, it woudl behoove you to at least RETHINK it. In fact, that is all I asked you to do. Put if off a little bit and weigh your options. If you still think it's the best option after you taken some time to research then go for it man.
 
I appreciate your concern, I'm still going to run this as its the best I got so far. If all else fails, I will go back to my original plans, and run IGF-1 LR3, with GHRP 2/6, seems easier, cheaper, and less body damage. I am in perfect health (as doctor's have told me), ideal pulse, ideal BP, fairly low cholesterol, so going into to this if I feel like its not making me feel well, or I'm not getting the results I'm after, I'll just get out of it as quickly as possible, run my post cycle therapy (pct), and start looking anew.
 
Second day now, I was expecting to notice a difference (was hoping it would kick my ass), not learning that it doesn't kick in until the 3rd week until yesterday, I can see what you mean by it not being a stand alone, I'll see what its like on week 3
 
Methodology said:
I appreciate your concern, I'm still going to run this as its the best I got so far. If all else fails, I will go back to my original plans, and run IGF-1 LR3, with GHRP 2/6, seems easier, cheaper, and less body damage. I am in perfect health (as doctor's have told me), ideal pulse, ideal BP, fairly low cholesterol, so going into to this if I feel like its not making me feel well, or I'm not getting the results I'm after, I'll just get out of it as quickly as possible, run my post cycle therapy (pct), and start looking anew.
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earlier you said you wanted to do this naturally. now you say you want to add RCs to it. which is it? i think i know what's going on here -- i see a bunch of shit that doesn't use a needle.
 
Methodology said:
Second day now, I was expecting to notice a difference (was hoping it would kick my ass), not learning that it doesn't kick in until the 3rd week until yesterday, I can see what you mean by it not being a stand alone, I'll see what its like on week 3
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so despite all the broscience you did on hundreds of bros you still didn't know when this "cycle" (which it totally isnt btw) would start being noticable?
 
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