helladrol/katana or dieselbol/katana or epi/katana

[Phllabomber]

anyone ever try any of theses stacks? how were the results? im looking right now to cut up while trying to keep the muslce and even gain some if possible. my bf% is about 18-20 and i really want to get down to around 10-12 if possible. Also plan on running hc generate through the whole thing. i hear dieselbolan is great for mass/ helladrol is like a mini-diesel/ and epi is good for really drying/leaning out with good gains, but not nearly as much as the other 2 products. suggestions would help thanks!

weight 189
bf% about 18-20

 

[mich29]

whats your age?

 

[TheDarkHalf]

anyone ever try any of theses stacks? how were the results? im looking right now to cut up while trying to keep the muslce and even gain some if possible. my bf% is about 18-20 and i really want to get down to around 10-12 if possible. Also plan on running hc generate through the whole thing. i hear dieselbolan is great for mass/ helladrol is like a mini-diesel/ and epi is good for really drying/leaning out with good gains, but not nearly as much as the other 2 products. suggestions would help thanks!

weight 189
bf% about 18-20

I would say it would be nice to know your age - and honestly maybe try cutting down to 12-15% BF on your own and then run a stack. Hella/katana or epi/katana will be your best bet IMO - those two will produce the best lean gains that will be maintainable after a cycle and the risk of side effects is low

 

[Phllabomber]

age 22

 

[apertur379]

I've tried both hella/kat stack, and gota say gains are nice and keepable with a good post cycle therapy (pct), but then again its all diet dependent. I've also ran kat alone, with really great results. At 22 you are fairly young .. what's your on cycle protection and post cycle therapy (pct) look like?

 

[Phllabomber]

Ok now i finally switched it after talking to a buddy, he convinced me about another stack that would be more towards what i am looking for.supposovely this stack isnt as harsh either, but here it is,
Ushred (UG labs)
Xtreme Shred (A/T)
milk thistle, while on stack,
tropinol for PCT

he also told me i coulld run the Ushred for 12 weeks, if im correct? the goal is to strip as much bf as possible. any suggestions or opinions?

 

[mich29]

I'd say work your weight down naturally then think about ph/ds once you have done that