help and advices for this planned cycle

666devilman

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Hi everybody,

first of all my stats:
age 43
height 175 cm (5 ft 9 inch)
weight 75 kg (165 p)
bf : around 9%

I***8217;ve used PH like trestolone during the past years and I***8217;d like to plan correctly my future cycle(s).

My goal: gain 10 kg (22 p) of muscles in 9 months, let***8217;s say June 2017 weighting 85 (187 p) kg with 8% bf.

To reach this goal i plan to do a 3 months mass cycle trying not to add too much fat (oct-dec), followed by an off period of other 3 months to consolidate the gains, followed by 3 months of cutting (possibly with a cycle).

Let***8217;s speak about my planned cycle, on which i***8217;d like to receive your advices.

I have 17 ml of **** sust 300 (300 mg per ml) that would be the core of the cycle.

I***8217;d buy another vial (but i could buy something different) and use in this way.

1 shot every 3 days.
First 3 shots (1st week) 600 mg per injection (frontload)
all the following 11 weks shots of 300 mg.
(in the pic the resulting blood levels of T)

Calories : 1000 above manteinance on non training days, 1500 on training days.

Aromasin 25 mg ed

PCT : clomid

Now some questions:

Are my goals reachable according to you with this plan?

Would you add something and what?

Do you think frontloading is a good idea and would you change the strategy (first 3 shots with double dose of sust)

Do you think i should add Fina?

What other supplemnts would you suggest OC or PC ? (eg n2 guard)
 
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Hi!
this year transdermal trestolone and trenavar
last year im trestolone and transdermal trenavar
tried also dienazone in the past
 
I think your goals are reachable, but I'd leave things as they are and not add a thing other than say HCG on cycle. I say this as you've run a few PH cycles, which I put in the same category as oral steroids. They're great for adding to a cycle, but not something I'd do on its own. This most definitely includes Fina (tren) being left alone until you get some experience built up.

I'd keep an eye on that body fat too. 1500kcal above maintenance is a pretty decent jump up in calories, and is fairly hard for some to put to use.

Welcome to ology.

My .02c :)
 
I think your goals are reachable, but I'd leave things as they are and not add a thing other than say HCG on cycle.
i have problems using the fridge...

I say this as you've run a few PH cycles, which I put in the same category as oral steroids. They're great for adding to a cycle, but not something I'd do on its own. This most definitely includes Fina (tren) being left alone until you get some experience built up.
with FINA i was referring to finasteride (proscar) and not finaplex ...
sorry

what about finasteride? (for prostate and baldness, atm i do not suffer of it))

I'd keep an eye on that body fat too. 1500kcal above maintenance is a pretty decent jump up in calories, and is fairly hard for some to put to use.

Welcome to ology.

My .02c :)

would you suggest a little less?
somthing like 750 above in non training and 1250 on training days?

thanx for the answers
 
Welcome !
Frontloading not necessary I m o but it s ur cycle. Only you can see what caloric intake keep s u at 9 percent.
Glad ur here
 
Welcome to Ology "devilman"?? Cycle looks solid as already stated, good luck. I'm always here if you wanna have a "come to Jesus" talk btw. ;-) jus say in..
 
i have problems using the fridge...


with FINA i was referring to finasteride (proscar) and not finaplex ...
sorry

what about finasteride? (for prostate and baldness, atm i do not suffer of it))



would you suggest a little less?
somthing like 750 above in non training and 1250 on training days?

thanx for the answers

Ahh, understandable with regards the HCG. I have my own drawer in the fridge, although I do want to buy a little one as it does get full.

Finasteride is an androgen blocker. While I personally think that it's one of the worst things a male could take, folks just have to weigh the potential consequences from taking it. If you're not balding, and don't need it - don't take it IMHO. Cialis and estradiol control will take care of your prostate. :)

Go by how you look and feel with regards to calories. If you start putting on too much fat, lower the cals. If you're not gaining any weight, and seem stagnant, up them a couple hundred. It's more of a try and see approach, which will give you optimal results dictated by your metabolism.

Hope that helps. :)
 
What's the trest like thinking of adding it I have both oral and oil

the intramuscular trest (bought powder and homebrewed) was amazing

the transdermal probably less impressive, but i injured my knee badly at the end of the cycle so this year results have been compromised
 
Sorry to bother but i'd like to know your opinion.

Next image represent blood level of the described cycle
View attachment 565159

next one is injecting every 4 days and not every 3 days (frontload: 2 injections of 600 mg)
View attachment 565160

As you see 100 mg / day vs 75mg /day T in blood.
Which one would you suggest?

Also, about frontloading...
what do you think about adding dianabol for the first 4 or 6 weeks (and using a normal 300 mg injections for the first shots)?
what do you think?
 
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