HELP!!!!! Did not take an antiestrogen!!!!

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inkerikink

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4weeks into my 8-10 wk cycle, 250mg cypionate a week and 75MG trenbalona 2x a wk. I was under the impression I did not need a ant estrogen med, but further research has me conflicted I read so much my head is spinning. What should I do now? Should I abort the cycle and hopefully recover with no anti estrogen or pct, it's a low dose so hopefully I haven't done any major damage please any constructive help is appreciated I know this was a dumb move so don't remind me. Backedin a corner and need answers
 
You don't need anti-estrogens except as a general precaution against gyno. If you don't have gyno, there's nothing wrong. I'd still grab some if I were you and take it for the remainder of the cycle just to be on the safe side.
 
fcastle said:
You don't need anti-estrogens except as a general precaution against gyno. If you don't have gyno, there's nothing wrong. I'd still grab some if I were you and take it for the remainder of the cycle just to be on the safe side.
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Jesus Christ this is Goldenera7 allll over again.

Do NOT listen to this guy. That is total bullshit. You have no idea what is going on inside your body.

Please stop giving advice. I've seen two ridiculous posts by you already.
 
Realistically with your average run of the mill cycle, 8 weeks in, on a person with no pre-existing conditions, the odds of anything being wrong are basically nothing.
 
fcastle said:
Realistically with your average run of the mill cycle, 8 weeks in, on a person with no pre-existing conditions, the odds of anything being wrong are basically nothing.
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The odds of exogenous test being introduced to the body and E2 levels not skyrocketing thru the roof are pretty slim dude. Without bloodwork you have no idea. We do not give advice that way here. Always run an AI.
 
fcastle to simply state it nice and to not be unwelcoming I will say it like this. You are indeed giving out bad advice when you say what you said to him about not needing a anti estrogen. For the simple fact every single person's body is different and that some people will have estrogen problems that may not show up as gyno but can appear in other forms such as high blood pressure and water retention.

And to the original poster who is on tren and testosterone without a anti progesterone or a anti estrogen. From the way I see it you really are playing with fire you don't know the basics of even how to properly manage your estrogen and are on the strongest steroid known to man kind which is tren. I think it is best to stop the cycle if you didn't even know how to manage estrogen. It sounds like you were poorly informed by a friend and got a hold of some stuff and took some ones advice who just wanted to sell you something.

It makes me wonder if you are even sterilizing your injection sites ok or what else you could be doing wrong. I will say to you though. I have fucked up before myself so im not trying to be a dick im just saying I think your in over your head. And you might need to do PCT considering your 4 weeks into a tren cycle and how suppressive tren is on your natural testosterone. Their are sticky's at the top of the page that can help you learn about proper pct and how to manage estrogen and al that good stuff. Read up for a few hours.
 
I am. Sterilizing my stuff, am knowledge in bb pathogens and cross contamination, you are right I was ill informed by a friend. I am going order Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and pct ASAP what would you recommend? I will stop the tren immediately as for the test do I quit this too and hope for the best till I get a pctand a I?
 
inkerikink said:
I am. Sterilizing my stuff, am knowledge in bb pathogens and cross contamination, you are right I was ill informed by a friend. I am going order Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and pct ASAP what would you recommend? I will stop the tren immediately as for the test do I quit this too and hope for the best till I get a pctand a I?
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You are right at about the time for a mid cycle blood test. Were you planning on getting one? If so this will greatly help you in finding out how to start the AI/anti progesterone protocol.

Id probably stop the tren but keep running the test. Order your stuff right away and get blood work. Prolly the safest route right now
 
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Maintenance Man said:
You should be using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout the entire cycle and up to PCT.

So you have no Aromatase inhibitor (AI), prolactin antagonizer, nor anything for PCT?? and your 4 weeks in already?
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No I did not. I will be getting one ASAP is there hope here or did ijust fucking up bad
 
Maintenance Man said:
You are right at about the time for a mid cycle blood test. Were you planning on getting one? If so this will greatly help you in finding out how to start the AI/anti progesterone protocol.

Id probably stop the tren but keep running the test. Order your stuff right away and get blood work. Prolly the safest route right now
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I am getting one done soon, have an appropriate with endocrinologist ordering tomorrow, and will cut the tren, what's gonna tell me on theblood whether or not I'm good and not running anti estrogen. This far is there a way to compensate?
 
inkerikink said:
I am getting one done soon, have an appropriate with endocrinologist ordering tomorrow, and will cut the tren, what's gonna tell me on theblood whether or not I'm good and not running anti estrogen. This far is there a way to compensate?
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The blood test will show you your estrogen level. Depending on how high you are over the range, it can indicate where you might need to start dosing at for your AI.
 
illumin4tion said:
Listen to the man with tits in his profile picture. A SERM is always required.
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LOL very true it is. But not to be confused with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) being a SERM. They are in fact two different classes of drugs. While some might opt for a SERM like nolva or more commonly used ralox on cycle to treat an existing case of gyno for example, it is most commonly used in conjunction with clomid during PCT.
 
MM's on a mission today! NIIICE.

OP: I'd recommend you get a private blood test instead of going through an endo. You don't want those elevated test levels to spark some questions that you don't want to have to answer. ;)

privatemdlabs.com is 50 bucks with a coupon code you can google and opt for the female panel. Just be sure to check the MALE box at the very end. They just have you head down to a Labcorp near you and you receive results in a few days via email. It's confidential and ONLY you see the results. This is assuming you live in the US and not in one of the ass-backward states like NY or RI that prohibit this type of service.
 
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