Help in wk 8 of a 12 week cycle (first cycle)

[RRSC]

Noticed a difference over the past two weeks. Lower libido and lost 6 pounds. Into a new (and last) bottle of Test E.. Just received back mid-cycle labs and testosterone was 617.. Understand it should be ~1650. LH was good (taking HCG), E2 was low. Clearly the gear is weak. First bottle was good. Overall pretty awesome result over the first 8 weeks.

This was my beginner cycle. For background, 36 years old. 186 lbs, 5'10. Test E @ 500 /wk. HCG at 500iu /wk and HGH at 4iu /day. Texted my source pissed, but at a point I could either increase the amount of Test E I have left, or get more for the next 3 - 4 weeks.

Worth it, or just start PCT?

Would appreciate any help.

Thanks, guys.

 

[Megatron28]

What do you mean LH was good? It should be shut down. FSH too. hCG mimics LH, but it does not show up as LH on blood work. Sounds like your gear is/was bunk.

Let me guess, you Natty T is around 600ng/dl?

Can you post your mid-cycle blood work results please? Lets see what is going on. Please include reference ranges.

 

[Megatron28]

I merged your threads. One is sufficient.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Ouuch !

 

[Wrasse02]

8 weeks and 617ng/dl?


Thats gotta suck

 

[RRSC]

8 weeks and 617ng/dl?


Thats gotta suck

It does..

 

[RRSC]

What do you mean LH was good? It should be shut down. FSH too. hCG mimics LH, but it does not show up as LH on blood work. Sounds like your gear is/was bunk.

Let me guess, you Natty T is around 600ng/dl?

Can you post your mid-cycle blood work results please? Lets see what is going on. Please include reference ranges.

Thanks. Sorry about the double post. Didn't realize.

Test pre-cycle was ~820 ng/dl.

LH is 3.2. Range is 1.7 - 8.6
FSH is 3.6. Range is 1.5 - 12.4

Estradiol is 26.6. Range is 7.6 - 42.6.

Everything is in range with the exception of glucose and creatinine being on the higher side.

Hematocrit is 49.7. Range is 37.5 - 51%.

I stopped the AI as water retention went away, strength started to drop, etc.

The source/my trainer says he'll get me a replacement btl tmrw. Not sure it's the right thing to do. Needed some advise from folks on here.

 

[Megatron28]

Thanks. Sorry about the double post. Didn't realize.

Test pre-cycle was ~820 ng/dl.

LH is 3.2. Range is 1.7 - 8.6
FSH is 3.6. Range is 1.5 - 12.4

Estradiol is 26.6. Range is 7.6 - 42.6.

Everything is in range with the exception of glucose and creatinine being on the higher side.

Hematocrit is 49.7. Range is 37.5 - 51%.

I stopped the AI as water retention went away, strength started to drop, etc.

The source/my trainer says he'll get me a replacement btl tmrw. Not sure it's the right thing to do. Needed some advise from folks on here.

Those LH and FSH numbers show that your gear is 100% fake. They should both read 0 while on cycle .

 

[RRSC]

Those LH and FSH numbers show that your gear is 100% fake. They should both read 0 while on cycle .

Thanks, Mega.

Should I start PCT or continue with a new bottle I received today? I can finish the cycle with 500 /wk for the next 3-4 weeks, then start PCT as scheduled. Not sure if I want to go up and down, but want to stay committed to the plan.

 

[Megatron28]

Thanks, Mega.

Should I start PCT or continue with a new bottle I received today? I can finish the cycle with 500 /wk for the next 3-4 weeks, then start PCT as scheduled. Not sure if I want to go up and down, but want to stay committed to the plan.

Why continue running fake gear? And no, PCT doesn't appear to be necessary as it looks like you never ran a cycle. Does that make sense?

 

[RRSC]

Why continue running fake gear? And no, PCT doesn't appear to be necessary as it looks like you never ran a cycle. Does that make sense?

It does, but the first 10ML bottle seemed to be fine. Felt great, gained ~8lbs, strength, etc. Also, I got a replacement bottle of a different brand today. So I could continue or just stop as it's been roughly 3 weeks since I ran out of the first bottle.

 

[Megatron28]

It does, but the first 10ML bottle seemed to be fine. Felt great, gained ~8lbs, strength, etc. Also, I got a replacement bottle of a different brand today. So I could continue or just stop as it's been roughly 3 weeks since I ran out of the first bottle.

It is up to you. But I dont think you have run any gear yet.

 

[RRSC]

It is up to you. But I dont think you have run any gear yet.

If we assume the first bottle was good, would I help myself recover by starting PCT, or would it be better to move ahead with the stuff that's supposed to be good? I'm not sure what I should do. Feeling stuck.

 

[Megatron28]

If we assume the first bottle was good, would I help myself recover by starting PCT, or would it be better to move ahead with the stuff that's supposed to be good? I'm not sure what I should do. Feeling stuck.

Your blood work points towards your first vial being bunk.

You could try starting over and running a 12 week cycle.

 

[RRSC]

Guys - I decided not to start over. Stopped and since there was a short period of time on the cycle, and only one good vial, I didn't do PCT as I was unsure when to start, etc. I waited a month and got labs. Test is hovering around ~600. Still a bit low based on my pre-labs that were around 850.

Feel fine. Gained slightly more fat that usual and libido little low.

Question is whether I should continue to wait for test to recover fully, or try a short round of PCT.

Appreciate the help.

 

[Megatron28]

Guys - I decided not to start over. Stopped and since there was a short period of time on the cycle, and only one good vial, I didn't do PCT as I was unsure when to start, etc. I waited a month and got labs. Test is hovering around ~600. Still a bit low based on my pre-labs that were around 850.

Feel fine. Gained slightly more fat that usual and libido little low.

Question is whether I should continue to wait for test to recover fully, or try a short round of PCT.

Appreciate the help.

What were your other lab results?

 

[RRSC]

What were your other lab results?

LH 4.8 (1.7-8.6)
FSH 3.5 (1.5-12.4)
Estradiol 10.2 (7.6-42.6)

RBC was a little high. Hematocrit was 51.1 (37.5-51.0)

All else in range.