Help me pick!!

[Brabus]

I can either do a cycle to Test E 500/Week for 15 weeks or Sustanon at 500/week for 13 weeks. It would be 80 bucks cheaper to do the Sustanon (sust). This is my 4th cycle. Which should I do?

 

[TheMilkMan]

thats a tough call, do you have Prop sides?

I guess its all personal preference and if you NEED the 80 bucks

 

[alex7781]

I personally like Sust better, I noticed I seemed stay a little leaner when I was running sust as opposed to Test E, and I was doing cardio on the TEst E and not the Sustanon (sust). But like Milk said it is a personal pref, and alot of guys love Test E over Sust anyday, you really gotta try each out to get the feel of what works better for you, Well hope all goes well my friend...Remember proper post cycle therapy (pct) and a nice clean diet is a must.....in fact how about you give us your stats, goals, and cycle, and I think you may get a few more responses

 

[sazookeeper]

I know that we should not really discuss price and cost but I can`t believe that Test E is more expensive .At the gyms around here Test E is the cheapest buy far,as a result the guys with money prefere the Sust.Its often a case of if its more costly its better.Most guys around here will always go with the Test E no mater what the cost.

 

[Bigjarhead]

You will not notice much of a difference......your choice. I say save the $80....

 

[Brabus]

What are prop sides? I am not familiar with the abbreviation? I usually run Novla for post cycle therapy (pct). Anything different for Sustanon (sust)? I also have HCG on hand.

Stats
31 yrs old 5ft. 9 in. 230lbs. 15% BF 4th cycle.

 

[ran_azrad]

I can either do a cycle to Test E 500/Week for 15 weeks or Sustanon at 500/week for 13 weeks. It would be 80 bucks cheaper to do the Sustanon (sust). This is my 4th cycle. Which should I do?

at 4th cycle take the sus, its a better choice.
what else you are going to run with test?

 

[Brabus]

I was going to run it straight up with Nolva as post cycle therapy (pct) and probably some HCG.

 

[DaddyD]

if ur gonna run sust at 500mgs pw its wasting some of the sust ,u get the best results from ed or eod shots of Sustanon (sust), so I would run test e if its gonna be 500mgs. Theres a chart about sust and the best way to run it on basskilleronline.com check it out

 

[Brabus]

could not find the chart. How would you dose it? how much ed or eod? What do you think about adding proviron?

 

[DaddyD]

Since there is fast acting esters in sust if its shot 2x pw ur levels are gonna be up and down,I think 1amp eod is fine but it puts u up to 750mgs pw thats why imo u should stay with test e.

 

[DaddyD]

A new look into doing Sustanon250 by basskiller



As you can see by the numbers, the quickest way to get the sust levels in your blood stream at a constant maximum level is to shoot ed.
By the middle of week 1, your there, except for a few milligrams.


On a 3cc case, each hash mark equals 25mgs of sust
So to shoot
200mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 3/4 of a ml
150mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 1/2 of a ml
100mgs would be 4 hash marks or a little under 1/2 of a ml


Also to do this you will need a sterile 40 or 50 ml empty vial to switch all the sust amps into.
basskiller

days.. amount taken.......the amount in the blood stream
1 ..............200mgs ................190mgs
2 ..............200 .......................351
3 ..............200 .......................487
4 ..............150 .......................555
5 ..............150 .......................612
6 ..............100 .......................613
7 ..............100 .......................614
Week 2
8 ..............100 .......................615
9 ..............100 .......................616
10.............100 .......................616
11.............100 .......................617
12.............100 .......................617
13.............100 .......................617
14.............100 .......................618
Week 3
15............100 .......................618
16............100 .......................618
17............100 .......................618
18............100 .......................618
19............100 .......................618
20............100 .......................619
21............100 .......................619
Week 4
22............100 .......................619
23............100 .......................619
24............100 .......................619
25............100 .......................619
26............100 .......................619
27............100 .......................619
28............100 .......................619
Week 5
29...,........100 .......................619
30............100 .......................619
31............100 .......................619
32............100 .......................619
33............100 .......................619
34............100 .......................619
35............100 .......................619
Week 6
36............100 .......................619
37............100 .......................619
38............100 .......................619
39............100 .......................619
40............100 .......................619
41............100 .......................619
42............100 .......................619
Week 7
43............100 .......................619
44............100 .......................619
45............100 .......................619
46............100 .......................619
47............100 .......................619
48............100 .......................619
49............100 .......................619
Week 8
50............100 .......................619
51............100 .......................619
52............100 .......................619
53............100 .......................619
54............100 .......................619
55............100 .......................619
56............100 .......................619


Also you can see by the numbers...
Your shooting 700mgs a week, with the exception of the 1st week,
That your only really doing 619mgs.



Question:

So we all have heard that more even T levels (ED injections) means less side effects, right? Why is that? Can someone briefly expand on this idea? What are some other reasons for keeping our T levels as even as possible? Looking for input here to put a reason behind the technique...

as posted by 46and2aheadofme (the same who made the graph) Thanks 46

Answer:

Ok lets see if we can put this into perspective... I've asked some of who I feel are the most knowledgeable guys on these boards about this to see if they agree and yes, so far everyone seems to be on the same page

The best way to put it is as Andy said .. I'm paraphrasing here


Many, guys say that dbol is many times more effective when taken throughout the day, Bill Roberts included.
There seem to be less sides and more gains as opposed to just taking it 1 or 2 times daily....

The only difference between taking it 1 to 2 times a day and throughout the day is the stability in the blood .

The higher injection frequency = stable blood levels = better gains and or less sides is simply an extension of this analogy.

There's no doubt that people gain from injecting sustanon 1x/week... But, at least in theory, it would be better if split up..
The magnitude of the difference in blood levels increases with dose..
So the need to split up the injections increases with the dose and may not be that big of a deal on small cycles.






Here is the normal 3 times a week chart

Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just Here is Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just develops a pattern after week 7


1 ...250 .......................238
2 ...0 ..........................201
3 ...250 .......................409
4 ...0 ..........................346
5 ...250 .......................532
6 ...0 ..........................451
7 ...0 ..........................384
Week 2
8 ...250 .......................566
9 ...0 ..........................480
10...250 .......................646
11...0 ..........................547
12...250 .......................703
13...0 ..........................595
14...0 ..........................507
Week 3
15...250 .......................672
16...0 ..........................569
17...250 .......................722
18...0 ..........................611
19...250 .......................758
20...0 ..........................642
21...0 ..........................547
Week 4
22...250 .......................706
23...0 ..........................598
24...250 .......................747
25...0 ..........................632
26...250 .......................776
27...0 ..........................657
28...0 ..........................560
Week 5
29...250 .......................717
30...0 ..........................607
31...250 .......................755
32...0 ..........................639
33...250 .......................782
34...0 ..........................662
35...0 ..........................564
Week 6
36...250 .......................721
37...0 ..........................610
38...250 .......................757
39...0 ..........................641
40...250 .......................784
41...0 ..........................663
42...0 ..........................656
Week 7
43...250 .......................722
44...0 ..........................611
45...250 .......................758
46...0 ..........................642
47...250 .......................784
48...0 ..........................664
49...250 .......................566
Week 8
50...250 .......................722
51...0 ..........................611
52...250 .......................758
53...0 ..........................642
54...250 .......................784
55...0 ..........................664
56...0...........................566

 

[Brabus]

It is acutally sust 325 that I would have.

 

[DaddyD]

what brand ip? well u get the point of the chart