Help with controlling estrogen sides while on a high dose Test only cycle

[JZA69]

Hey what's up guys? Its been quite awhile since I've been on here, but I must say its good to be back.
So anyway, here's my issue.
I plan on running a 900mg/week test only cycle. I've never ran a test cycle this high and I know there's a much higher risk of estro related sides such as bloating, gyno, etc. Now I know that the use of AI's would be the appropriate action. Problem is, my source only has SERM's (nolvadex and clomid). My question is, would it be effective to run these during my cycle instead? If so, should I run the nolva or clomid, how often should I use them, and at what doses would be best?
Now I have done some research before starting this thread, I'm not just trying to be lazy and look for a quick answer on here. I just seem to get some conflicting answers, so I was hoping maybe someone with more experience and knowledge would be able to help.
FYI this would be my 6th or 7th cycle.
Any help, comments, or feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!

 

[riprockwell]

Hey what's up guys? Its been quite awhile since I've been on here, but I must say its good to be back.
So anyway, here's my issue.
I plan on running a 900mg/week test only cycle. I've never ran a test cycle this high and I know there's a much higher risk of estro related sides such as bloating, gyno, etc. Now I know that the use of AI's would be the appropriate action. Problem is, my source only has SERM's (nolvadex and clomid). My question is, would it be effective to run these during my cycle instead? If so, should I run the nolva or clomid, how often should I use them, and at what doses would be best?
Now I have done some research before starting this thread, I'm not just trying to be lazy and look for a quick answer on here. I just seem to get some conflicting answers, so I was hoping maybe someone with more experience and knowledge would be able to help.
FYI this would be my 6th or 7th cycle.
Any help, comments, or feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!

Dude, there are a ton of board sponsors on here who you can get Arimidex from so therefore you would not need to run Nolva or Clomid except for post cycle therapy (pct). You could go with Arimidex or Aromasin. Personally, I would go with Arimidex.

 

[jonesfarm]

Dude, there are a ton of board sponsors on here who you can get Arimidex from so therefore you would not need to run Nolva or Clomid except for post cycle therapy (pct). You could go with Arimidex or Aromasin. Personally, I would go with Arimidex.

x2

 

[JZA69]

Dude, there are a ton of board sponsors on here who you can get Arimidex from so therefore you would not need to run Nolva or Clomid except for post cycle therapy (pct). You could go with Arimidex or Aromasin. Personally, I would go with Arimidex.

Arimidex is what I was originally trying to get
But its a little more complicated than that. I've been displaced from hurricane Sandy and cannot use my current address for mail. I would have to have it mailed to my dad's address, which i'm trying to avoid. I mean if worse comes to worst, I'll do what I gotta do. Of course I want to take the best course of action. But if that route can be avoided that would be great. If not, I will certainly heed all advice given

 

[fancyhuh101]

rui arimidex comes in a little bottle with blue liquid in it that smells sweet witha little alcohol in it , and only says Liquidex on it , has no other reference towards the drug name . its fairly hard to determine what it is unless u know , so u can probably pass by getting it sent somewhere else and saying its something else

 

[JZA69]

rui arimidex comes in a little bottle with blue liquid in it that smells sweet witha little alcohol in it , and only says Liquidex on it , has no other reference towards the drug name . its fairly hard to determine what it is unless u know , so u can probably pass by getting it sent somewhere else and saying its something else

I just checked it out and I think that might actually work out well. Since we're on topic how should I run the dex? I plan on doing a 10 week cycle

 

[MeatHead96]

Yeah your going to need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with that amount of test. A SERM may block gyno but you will have a lot of estro conversion which will cause bloat and high BP. I run torem for gyno blocking purposes and adex to control estro on high test cycles.

 

[JZA69]

Yeah your going to need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with that amount of test. A SERM may block gyno but you will have a lot of estro conversion which will cause bloat and high BP. I run torem for gyno blocking purposes and adex to control estro on high test cycles.

Wouldn't the adex be sufficient enough to combat the gyno as well?

 

[fancyhuh101]

u can run it starting at .25 , thats what im using and its working fine , but if u feel u need more (say your gettin some sides like senstive nips , lower libido) then u can up it to .5 and that should be enough . when i ordered it i orders a bunch of needles and syringes so they didnt send me a measuring syringe , but i think when thats all u order , they send u a syringe , or maybe if they have a comment box or special request box when ur ordering u can ask them for one

 

[fancyhuh101]

sorry didnt realize the amount of test , at that high a dose id start running it at .5 from the start, keeping estrogen in check will prevent gyno , u shouldnt have a problem , just look out for those signs like itchy sensative nipples , high bp and low libido to tell you if the dose is sufficient

 

[JZA69]

sorry didnt realize the amount of test , at that high a dose id start running it at .5 from the start, keeping estrogen in check will prevent gyno , u shouldnt have a problem , just look out for those signs like itchy sensative nipples , high bp and low libido to tell you if the dose is sufficient

At .5 ED, that should be more than enough to keep that shit in check right? adex is some pretty potent stuff is it not?

 

[fancyhuh101]

yeah man , thats what u need , wouldnt rely on a serm like clomid or nolva for that job , .5 seems sufficient for most people , only time i hear of people using more is only if it came in a 1mg cap . but u also dont want to stop too much estrogen , you will be good , if u were to start getting gyno u will first get somes sides of it to control it

 

[JZA69]

yeah man , thats what u need , wouldnt rely on a serm like clomid or nolva for that job , .5 seems sufficient for most people , only time i hear of people using more is only if it came in a 1mg cap . but u also dont want to stop too much estrogen , you will be good , if u were to start getting gyno u will first get somes sides of it to control it

Thanks for the help my friend. You have been repped

 

[fancyhuh101]

no problem man

 

[JZA69]

My last and final question: should I keep running it after my last injection up until my post cycle therapy (pct)? And is it necessary to start it after my first jab, or should I wait a few weeks until my levels start peaking?

 

[fancyhuh101]

yes u can continue running it after last pin to pct and then stop when u start pct , i would not wait longer than 2 weeks , 2 max , but u can start from first pin to be safe, or u can take .25 the first 2 weeks then bump to .5 on week 2

 

[halfwit]

yes u can continue running it after last pin to pct and then stop when u start pct , i would not wait longer than 2 weeks , 2 max , but u can start from first pin to be safe, or u can take .25 the first 2 weeks then bump to .5 on week 2

^ This, but I would like to add that you should get bloodwork mid-way through your cycle to see how your estrogen is doing. It's also kind of motivating to see test numbers come back off the scale with a bolded High. You don't want to completely crush your estrogen, so I would try starting out at .25mg a day or EOD and move up if you start to feel bloating/itchy nipples/etc. I've been able to get away with .25m/ED with up to 1 gram of test, but of course YMMV.

My .02c

 

[JZA69]

yes u can continue running it after last pin to pct and then stop when u start pct , i would not wait longer than 2 weeks , 2 max , but u can start from first pin to be safe, or u can take .25 the first 2 weeks then bump to .5 on week 2

Yeah I'll stick with .25 at first to play it safe. Well thank you again my man, all my issues appear to be resolved. Thank you all.
Peace