Help with cycle design gentlemens

[monstrinh000]

How would you structure a prop kickstart in a test cyp cycle ? this is what I was thinking....

Do you lower your cyp while kickstarting with prop ?

example :

1-8 Test cyp. at 400mg week
1-8 Test prop at 50mg EOD
8-20 Test Cyp at 650 mg week
20-22 Test prop 100mg EOD
or would you already start with cypat 650 mg since day 1 ?


another question is 50mg prop eod too little or it would be effective for a kickstart ?

 

[scotimusprime]

what are your stats? is this your first 22 week cycle?

 

[monstrinh000]

yes sir.

5,7 80 kg low bf

I have never ran test higher that 600mg a week.

my main question is wether while kickstarting the cyp dosage should be kept lowe or the same throughout the cycle.

 

[RA64]

The cyp will build up in your system over several weeks, and the prop will be gone after a couple of days.

 

[scotimusprime]

anyway.......a 22 week cycle is ridiculous. you will not make gains for the whole 22 weeks,plus then you can only do 1 cycle/year

week 1-4 cyp+prop
week 4-10 cyp
week10-14 prop

something like this would be way better. or just shoot prop the whole way through for 6-10 weeks somewhere in there

 

[safety-man]

How would you structure a prop kickstart in a test cyp cycle ? this is what I was thinking....

Do you lower your cyp while kickstarting with prop ?

example :

1-8 Test cyp. at 400mg week
1-8 Test prop at 50mg EOD
8-20 Test Cyp at 650 mg week
20-22 Test prop 100mg EOD
or would you already start with cypat 650 mg since day 1 ?


another question is 50mg prop eod too little or it would be effective for a kickstart ?

i would sooner just run the cyp at a higher and steady dose throughout the cycle, something like...

weeks 1-16 test cyp at 700mg/week x 2 shots per week. post cycle therapy (pct) starting 2 weeks after last injection and run for 4 weeks.

 

[monstrinh000]

anyway.......a 22 week cycle is ridiculous. you will not make gains for the whole 22 weeks,plus then you can only do 1 cycle/year

week 1-4 cyp+prop
week 4-10 cyp
week10-14 prop

something like this would be way better. or just shoot prop the whole way through for 6-10 weeks somewhere in there

Thank you for your insight.

I liked the way youve put this. But in terms of doses durin the first weeks while ruinning prop with cyp would you lower the cyp dose ?

 

[safety-man]

Thank you for your insight.

I liked the way youve put this. But in terms of doses durin the first weeks while ruinning prop with cyp would you lower the cyp dose ?

i dont know man, im not a huge fan of front loading test with test, unless you know exactly what your doing your just going to mess up your blood levels. if your stuck on the quick action of the prop then just get some sust and shoot it eod. things can be kept simple and still be very effective.

 

[monstrinh000]

I understand the thing is I have the cyp and prop on hands

 

[safety-man]

I understand the thing is I have the cyp and prop on hands

i would choose between the 2 and keep the other for another cycle. if you want to front load the cyp the i would rather go with dbols. im sure there are likely many on here that have had success in doing what you are suggesting, im just stating what i think would be effective and more simple.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

if your gonna jump your cycle with prop mine as well run 100-150mg EOD for first 5 weeks...........what is your cyp dosed at?

 

[monstrinh000]

250mg/ml th cyp

so i would run both but the cyp at a lower dose while kickstarting right ?

cause i dnt think runing 1000mg would be a good idea at 80 kg.......

so 100mg prop eod and 300 mg cyp week for 1st 8 6 weeks then stop prop and bumpo cyp to 650 mg week. correct ?