Help with starting up Test e Tren e Cycle..

[zuppah]

Hi im 23 years old, been training since i was 16 or 17 till now... ive done 3 cycles before between age of 20 and 23... first anadrol and testo ,,, second test tren and deca ( low dosed ) but sure worked.. last one is like 1/2 year ago and that was test and dbol only.... so now i wanna go for test tren.

stats: age 23
weight: 285lbs ( was 230lbs earlyer when i did that test tren deca cycle,,, but stoped training after that for a year...
fat : 12%
current cycles.. 3 ,, read above.


Cycle in gonna do is:
test e 500mg 14 weeks
tren e 400mg 12 weeks

nolvadex 40/40/20/20 from week 17-20

pinning test & tren 2 times a week..

so i wonder how long into first pinning day will i notice something from enethate tren and test,,, what comes first?? sides effecdt like night sleep and sweating and stuff or does the strength gain comes first? and then sides?? and how many weeks till ive started at that dose will i notice strength gains...

1 does it work to double doses of test and tren the first week to get it work faster ??
2 or should i try get dbol for kick start.... anyways if i cant afford dbol does front loading works to make it kick in faster??

 

[KingBF]

285 and 12% at 23yo...you should post a pick cause thats impressive or complete bullshit. anyways if you want it to kick in faster and do not want to use dbol then buy test prop and tren ace. run the prop 10-12 weeks and the tren ace 2 weeks shorter than prop. also add clomid to pct at 50mg'd ED for 4 weeks with your nolva. by frontloading your test and tren its only going to fuck with your levals. i wouldnt advise of that. no matter how much you inject the ester is still about 3 weeks