HGH long term use dosage ulimited supply

[69thelememt]

People say you should do HGH 'for as long as you can afford it'

Thankfully compared to 10 years ago and thanks to this board HGH is quite affordable these days.......

My question is if you where staying on HGH for life, whats the best dosage for minimum long term sides and also can you play around while you go......

Right now I'm aged 32 and been of cycling AAS for a year due to injury....

My idea was to firstly start on a dose of 2ui a day used along with Ephedrine to shake of some BF (currently around 18% due to time off)

then after six months when im cycling again, i'm unsure what to do, alot say EOD at higher doses means more muscle building and less sides, but if staying on for the foreseeable is his a good idea??

I'm thinking 2ui everyday upto make 4 is the amount to use constantly or would it be an idea to do the 2-4ui for the fat loss then switch it up to 8 ui maybe while on AAS, also if im off cycle whats the best for keeping muscle from AAS.

Basically question is if initally u wanted fat loss for 6 months then did the regular 8-12 week cycle protocol how would you use you HGH along side???

 

[Kazmir]

4-6iu straight through until cycle (2-3iu am and 2-3iiu post workout taken via IM injection) and then resume same protocol after cycle
Protocol during cycle is all dependent on what your cycle is for, bulking or cutting.

An exert from
Growth Hormone Information for Beginners
By Gavin Kane

First recommended use is for people looking for overall health, boosted immune system, fat loss, and general sense of well being. You will also notice small increases in lean muscle mass, as well as healthier skin, hair, etc. For people looking to use HGH for this reason, I recommend 2iu per day take first thing in the morning for no less than 6 month cycles, preferably full time use. You will not need to worry about insulin insensitivity issues or down-regulation of your thyroid.

Second recommended use is for people looking to lose the maximum amount of fat while gaining the most lean mass possible. This type of cycle is great for endomorphs or anyone who generally has a hard time staying lean while bulking. For this type of use, I recommend 4-6iu per day, ½ taken in the morning 30 minutes before breakfast, and the other half dose taken immediately post workout.

The third recommend use of HGH is for athletes off season looking to gain the maximum amount of mass possible. You will gain a lot of lean mass, but also have a lot of water retention due to the dosing schedule. For this type of growth hormone cycle, you will take your weekly HGH dose and split it into three shots taken post workout. For example, a bodybuilder who normally does 4iu per day on a normal schedule, which is 28iu per week, you will take 10iu 3x per week post workout only. When using HGH in this manner you may experience increased insulin sensitivity and it is highly recommended you use exogenous insulin with your HGH. This timing schedule forces the maximum conversion to igf-1 in the muscle as well as generates hyperplasia. You will have amazing recovery abilities, quick increases in lean mass and can cycle the use on and off in conjunction with your steroid cycles.

The fourth and final method of HGH is for competitors looking to lose the maximum amount of fat, or for any athlete looking to lean up. For this type of use, I recommend taking 4-6iu first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, about ½ hour before doing a morning session of cardio, or before your first morning meal. You will create an optimal environment for burning fat all day long. You will want to use t3/t4 in conjunction with this cycle to further aid in fat loss, as well as the down-regulation of thyroid output.

 

[69thelememt]

4-6iu straight through until cycle (2-3iu am and 2-3iiu post workout taken via IM injection) and then resume same protocol after cycle
Protocol during cycle is all dependent on what your cycle is for, bulking or cutting.

An exert from
Growth Hormone Information for Beginners
By Gavin Kane

First recommended use is for people looking for overall health, boosted immune system, fat loss, and general sense of well being. You will also notice small increases in lean muscle mass, as well as healthier skin, hair, etc. For people looking to use HGH for this reason, I recommend 2iu per day take first thing in the morning for no less than 6 month cycles, preferably full time use. You will not need to worry about insulin insensitivity issues or down-regulation of your thyroid.

Second recommended use is for people looking to lose the maximum amount of fat while gaining the most lean mass possible. This type of cycle is great for endomorphs or anyone who generally has a hard time staying lean while bulking. For this type of use, I recommend 4-6iu per day, ½ taken in the morning 30 minutes before breakfast, and the other half dose taken immediately post workout.

The third recommend use of HGH is for athletes off season looking to gain the maximum amount of mass possible. You will gain a lot of lean mass, but also have a lot of water retention due to the dosing schedule. For this type of growth hormone cycle, you will take your weekly HGH dose and split it into three shots taken post workout. For example, a bodybuilder who normally does 4iu per day on a normal schedule, which is 28iu per week, you will take 10iu 3x per week post workout only. When using HGH in this manner you may experience increased insulin sensitivity and it is highly recommended you use exogenous insulin with your HGH. This timing schedule forces the maximum conversion to igf-1 in the muscle as well as generates hyperplasia. You will have amazing recovery abilities, quick increases in lean mass and can cycle the use on and off in conjunction with your steroid cycles.

The fourth and final method of HGH is for competitors looking to lose the maximum amount of fat, or for any athlete looking to lean up. For this type of use, I recommend taking 4-6iu first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, about ½ hour before doing a morning session of cardio, or before your first morning meal. You will create an optimal environment for burning fat all day long. You will want to use t3/t4 in conjunction with this cycle to further aid in fat loss, as well as the down-regulation of thyroid output.

nice one bro, think i'll be doing some juggling with the doses, firstly to see whats best, but secondly to keep thee body guessing, question would be i know 2-4iu ED is considered low usage for long term........what about blasting like thee 10iu post work out is this a long term strategy

what i may do is 2iu to start raising to 4ui in morning all at once until im happy with fat loss and ready to start a bulk cycle then maybe look at the post work out blast during this stage (though due to times and commitments morning injections are the only ones i can guarantee)

because of this i may need to stick to morning only injections

whats the best protocol for after AAS cycles for keeping most muscle during pct ect

 

[69thelememt]

4-6iu straight through until cycle (2-3iu am and 2-3iiu post workout taken via IM injection) and then resume same protocol after cycle
Protocol during cycle is all dependent on what your cycle is for, bulking or cutting.

An exert from
Growth Hormone Information for Beginners
By Gavin Kane

First recommended use is for people looking for overall health, boosted immune system, fat loss, and general sense of well being. You will also notice small increases in lean muscle mass, as well as healthier skin, hair, etc. For people looking to use HGH for this reason, I recommend 2iu per day take first thing in the morning for no less than 6 month cycles, preferably full time use. You will not need to worry about insulin insensitivity issues or down-regulation of your thyroid.

Second recommended use is for people looking to lose the maximum amount of fat while gaining the most lean mass possible. This type of cycle is great for endomorphs or anyone who generally has a hard time staying lean while bulking. For this type of use, I recommend 4-6iu per day, ½ taken in the morning 30 minutes before breakfast, and the other half dose taken immediately post workout.

The third recommend use of HGH is for athletes off season looking to gain the maximum amount of mass possible. You will gain a lot of lean mass, but also have a lot of water retention due to the dosing schedule. For this type of growth hormone cycle, you will take your weekly HGH dose and split it into three shots taken post workout. For example, a bodybuilder who normally does 4iu per day on a normal schedule, which is 28iu per week, you will take 10iu 3x per week post workout only. When using HGH in this manner you may experience increased insulin sensitivity and it is highly recommended you use exogenous insulin with your HGH. This timing schedule forces the maximum conversion to igf-1 in the muscle as well as generates hyperplasia. You will have amazing recovery abilities, quick increases in lean mass and can cycle the use on and off in conjunction with your steroid cycles.

The fourth and final method of HGH is for competitors looking to lose the maximum amount of fat, or for any athlete looking to lean up. For this type of use, I recommend taking 4-6iu first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, about ½ hour before doing a morning session of cardio, or before your first morning meal. You will create an optimal environment for burning fat all day long. You will want to use t3/t4 in conjunction with this cycle to further aid in fat loss, as well as the down-regulation of thyroid output.

nice one bro, think i'll be doing some juggling with the doses, firstly to see whats best, but secondly to keep thee body guessing, question would be i know 2-4iu ED is considered low usage for long term........what about blasting like thee 10iu post work out is this a long term strategy

what i may do is 2iu to start raising to 4ui in morning all at once until im happy with fat loss and ready to start a bulk cycle then maybe look at the post work out blast during this stage (though due to times and commitments morning injections are the only ones i can guarantee)

because of this i may need to stick to morning only injections

whats the best protocol for after AAS cycles for keeping most muscle during pct ect

 

[Kazmir]

Personally I was running the 2iu morning and 2iu post workout and have switched to 10iu post workout Mon, Wed, Fri during my cycle and once cycle is done I will return to the 2iu morning and post workout until next cycle

 

[69thelememt]

obviously hard to tell with the additional AAS but you feel the HGH serves your muscle growth better on the 10iu a day?? some people say this method leaves you with less sides??? How does the 4iu a day serve you after cycle in regards to keeps cycle gaains or gaining further still?

 

[prisonsex]

I've been running GH for the last 1-1/2 years and I'm current settled in at 3iu of Rips. I ran it for six months at 8iu. Honestly, the only thing that was diffrent was the sides. It sucked. I didn't see any measurable gains after that run. IMO, 3-4iu of good GH is the sweet spot after this point you are going to have a hard time justifying the sides.

I agree with most of what Kaz said except the recommendation of IM. If you are doing a blood seurm test okay, IM. For daily use or 5/2 I would go SubQ.

 

[69thelememt]

I've been running GH for the last 1-1/2 years and I'm current settled in at 3iu of Rips. I ran it for six months at 8iu. Honestly, the only thing that was diffrent was the sides. It sucked. I didn't see any measurable gains after that run. IMO, 3-4iu of good GH is the sweet spot after this point you are going to have a hard time justifying the sides.

I agree with most of what Kaz said except the recommendation of IM. If you are doing a blood seurm test okay, IM. For daily use or 5/2 I would go SubQ.

you do 2iu am and 2iu pm??

 

[prisonsex]

No. I've run it everyway possible. The only time I saw a real benift in breaking up the shots was when I was in the 6-8 range.

1-5 I do all at once. I workout in the mornings. I wake, pin and workout. I am at the apex of the GH post workout.

you do 2iu am and 2iu pm??

 

[69thelememt]

what you running it for?? what you noticing in terms of fat loss and muscle building synergy with your aas??

 

[Strong Man]

2iu is a good start and depending on how good your GH is you could take the dose up slowly and see how it goes. I started GH about 3 weeks ago at 2iu and have never sleep so good in my life.

 

[prisonsex]

I am currently running the GH for continued fat lose. IMO, the real benefit for GH is fat lose. It allows me to be a little sloppy with my diet and still maintain an above average physique. I am an over 40 bodybuilder and for me the greatest benefit I have experienced is the reduction in deep belly fat. This is the fat accumulated over a life time.

You are going to find tons of Internet gurus that are promoting GH for lean muscle gains. IMHO, if this is your goal don't waste your time. I've yet to find anyone who can quantify the gains while running GH. When the theory is challenged the argument is always the same "You didn't run it long enough" and "you weren't running a high enough dose". I have laid out the challenge before and I still stand behind it. Show me one person who has run GH (by itself, without AAS, PH or any other Hormones) that can quantify measurable gains. The stone cold fact is most body builders are running GH with AAS and people are confusing the GH for the gains. I'm not saying that you can not gain muscle as a result of long term, high dose GH use. What I am saying is if its so fucking minimal that you can pin down the gains; what's the point. If your a pro and you have been on for a decade and you are willing to spend the money and commit to years to gain a few pounds okay, I get. For most moral men stick to AAS and look at GH as a wonderful fat management tool.

Just my two cents. I'm not saying this is fact I'm just making a statement based on my personal experience; not some shit I read in a bullshit online report, or puking up information I read on another board.

 

[caladin]

4iu first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, about ½ hour before doing a morning session of cardio

2 Iu post workout

This would be optimal for me.

 

[69thelememt]

nice one guys!!