Hiding steroid use possible to experienced eyes?

[Lemonfitness]

Some background information on why I am posting this...

I work as a fitness instructor at a "Health club" and due to a few ear wigging members at work overhearing me and a friend "discussing" steroids off Woking hours they have gone to tell my manager/deputy...

After being grilled about it by them if I am using/have used or dealt steroids they felt certain they would get rid of me for not setting a good example nor wanting that kind of reputation, I fortunately managed to blag my way out of it and they seemed content with my "reasons" of discussion.

Here's the real kick....

I have prepared for my first cycle and had planned to start in a week.

Cycle:

10 weeks sust 500mg p/w

1-4 weeks Dbol 30mg ED

Pct at the ready and Ai , (goal is bulk)
I have made good gains naturally over the time and have good knowledge of training

However I don't need to explain myself or my reasons on taking steroids.

My main question is could I even remotely keep this secret from experienced managers who would sack me for steroid abuse , is it really that easy to tell if
Someone is on cycle. Or with a good tongue of silver keep them in the dark and live my life the way I want!

Would appreciate anyone's theories on this and experiences of hiding from family or people in the same situation.

the quantity of you that are going to tell me all the reasons I shouldn't do this due to other reasons then the question in matter please save your typing.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

SO your not going to get away with it with dbol. You have to run an AI the whole cycle you don't want any extra water on you. If you gain 20-40 pounds in the the next 10 weeks everyone who is watching you will know by the time you his 15 pounds.


Have you learned anything? I'd look for another job.

 

[DinoTexas]

Experienced eyes WILL KNOW for sure - key word "experienced". I can look around the gym and tell pretty easily 95% of the time who is and who isn't juicing....

 

[Lemonfitness]

SO your not going to get away with it with dbol. You have to run an AI the whole cycle you don't want any extra water on you. If you gain 20-40 pounds in the the next 10 weeks everyone who is watching you will know by the time you his 15 pounds.


Have you learned anything? I'd look for another job.

Yes I know what I'm doing with the cycle I'm very prepared.

It's an apprenticeship to eventually be a personal trainer which I would very much like to do. So I am learning yes.

I know dbol does hold water, especially if dieting is not on point and eating shitty food.

Have you had experience with a familiar cycle?

I'm very dedicated to my training and give it everything I have, I have built a solid base, yet the level I wish to compete at is not possible naturally.

My apprenticeship is only 2 days a week and my other job I can easily get away with it.

Not even the old "new mass gainer" and "recycling my creatine" could pull this off?

 

[Lemonfitness]

Surely the fact they had to ask me if I was means there trying to call me out and put me off if I "was" considering it, they say they would clear out anyone juicing in the "health club" yet I know a few
Who are an there still around... Very spectacle of this.

 

[Havasu]

I think anyone who is in the Fitness Club industry with an untrained eye to steroid use would still be able to reasonably assume you are using with such fast weight gain. Now, I don't know where you live, however, if you're in the US if they are going to terminate you with cause (steroid Use/Not setting a good example) then they better have actual proof of the Steroid use. Which would mean paying for you to have a blood test. If your test is outside the normal range of the lab, then they've got you.

Short of a blood test though, it's all speculation. The only thing I could think you could do is float it out there in conversation with numerous co-workers that you're beginning a bulk for the winter, and you've been doing a lot of research on diet, and you'll be jacking up your calories SUPER high, and training your ass off. Then it may be expected that your weight will go up in short order, however it's all a risk. Like I said if they suspect you of it, and randomly drug test you, you're done.

 

[Lemonfitness]

I think anyone who is in the Fitness Club industry with an untrained eye to steroid use would still be able to reasonably assume you are using with such fast weight gain. Now, I don't know where you live, however, if you're in the US if they are going to terminate you with cause (steroid Use/Not setting a good example) then they better have actual proof of the Steroid use. Which would mean paying for you to have a blood test. If your test is outside the normal range of the lab, then they've got you.

Short of a blood test though, it's all speculation. The only thing I could think you could do is float it out there in conversation with numerous co-workers that you're beginning a bulk for the winter, and you've been doing a lot of research on diet, and you'll be jacking up your calories SUPER high, and training your ass off. Then it may be expected that your weight will go up in short order, however it's all a risk. Like I said if they suspect you of it, and randomly drug test you, you're done.

Thankyou for your view....

I live in the UK and plan to take a look at my contract on drug Testing policies tomorrow.

Yeah exactly what I meant by keeping them in the dark with a bit of silver tongue

 

[PrinceDianabol]

No way, you won't get away with it if your doing it right. Especially since they're already sus on you... I wouldn't risk it if I was you, unless like Havasu said they cant get you without proof..

 

[FlyMolo]

Unless they have reasonable cause to drug test you it's all just speculation. Unfortunately for you fabricating justifiable cause would be easy.

Here are some rules for yourself in the future:

1.Don't talk to anybody ever about steroids. If you want it to remain a secret the best way is to tell nobody and never talk about them even in a "not using" capacity.

2. Don't talk to anybody ever about steroids.

3. Don't forget rules 1 and 2.

If you wanna chat about gear do it here. 90% of arrests and workplace discipline is because people can't keep their big fat mouths shut.

 

[DinoTexas]

I would be shocked if any gym would spend the extra $$ to drug test for gear. That's a pretty common occurrence in many gym's. If there is a no tolerance policy and they want to fire you over it, they can figure out a way to get rid of you. If they are that serious about it, you should consider looking around in advance for something else to do, OR delaying your cycle for a while until the chatter dies down a bit

 

[Die$eL~Man]

Surely the fact they had to ask me if I was means there trying to call me out and put me off if I "was" considering it, they say they would clear out anyone juicing in the "health club" yet I know a few
Who are an there still around... Very spectacle of this.

Fuck Them Bro. Tell them to go drink some Haterade & walk...

 

[Craza]

When i was running my first cycle the people around me were surprised by how big i was getting so fast. Once i hit the 13lbs mark i got confronted by my father asking if i was using steroids. Turns out my family doesn't care if i'm on AAS. But getting back to the point, i know my co-workers were all thinking it, but never confronted me.

 

[Jhjp-]

You say you live in the UK bro ?

 

[Lemonfitness]

You say you live in the UK bro ?

Yeah I do.

 

[Jhjp-]

That's strange bro - in places like the US I totally get it but in the Uk (where I live to) steroids are legal for personal use, Infact I work in a mainstream health club my self and me and another co worker of mine are both using/mid cycle, and our manager knows, infact he makes jokes about it and claims it's the only reason he can't out bench us so I mean it's kind of your own health choice like smoking or drinking, would you seriously get fired from your job because you smoked? Dafuq no you wouldn't lol

 

[Lemonfitness]

My managers are 2 women and don't really understand steroids and carry the usual the on them like most people that don't understand them.
Yes they said to me if they find out I have lied about this and that I am using/dealing they won't ruin their reputation and shit over it.

This healthclub is in a fancy hotel and everyone sees us as a "healthy" club even tho the managers drink every weekend. Steroids are frowned upon in this club due to their little knowledge , I mainly want to know if even if they do find out from the obvious gains and possible sides, apart from sack me an call of my apprenticeship, could they possibly stop me becoming a certified PT if I was to do my a private personal training course?

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Here's the thing.

Steroids are legal for personal use in the UK.
The only way they can PROVE your using is through a blood test, which you are NOT obligated to take.
They CANNOT simply say "your using steroids" as the reason to terminate your contract because under UK law there is nothing wrong with that. If they do, they'll be fucked in court.
Honestly, it sounds to me that they already know this & will try to get you for dealing which IS illegal.

IMO, you have nothing to worry about as long as you keep your mouth shut & lie (I'm making gains from creatine, new vitamin supp, etc) - them believing you is irrelevant, the fact is no blood test = no proof.
"Looking" like your on gear will not cut it as an excuse to fire you if you take them to court - trust me they know this

 

[Lemonfitness]

And if they do drug test me and I refuse they can fire me for that, but can they stop me becoming certified as a PT all together for that reason? As they are not illegal and if I have refused they have no evidence I am on steroids? Only accusations. This is not a private business by the way it is a branched health club.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

And if they do drug test me and I refuse they can fire me for that, but can they stop me becoming certified as a PT all together for that reason? As they are not illegal ? Just not what they want in their gym... This is not a private business by the way it is a branch.

If they do drug test you & work out that your on roids, its still LEGAL for personal use.
The only way they could fire you is if their is a clause in your employment contract stating no steroids for employees, or something similar.
Check your contract that you signed - if their is no clause then your absolutely fine, if their is a clause then your fucked.

If you refuse the test & they fire you then that will have NO effect on you becoming a PT - this isnt a concern.

 

[Jhjp-]

Ahh yeah them bitches suck bro - and na they cant stop you from becoming a PT nothing can I do believe, sure if there that fucked up the could get you cicked of the apprenticeship but all you gota do then is pay to take the course, save up your money and pay the 1-3 grand that you have to pay to study it on an intense course. Don't sweat it bro nothing will be healed against you