High Blood Pressure again....

[DozerSoldier]

What up my peeps.
So, my second cycle of Helladrol.
First cycle was last July 2010. First cycle, toward end, had high blood pressure.
Ran 50/75/75/75 I believe.
Blood pressure stabilized fully in 2 months, then ran a cycle of Beastdrol. That was last year also.
My body responded better with Helladrol though.

Started a new cycle April 1st this year...
Will be ending here shortly.
I have ran 50/75/100

Got liver support, not worried about that.

Now, I know with Helladrol, I get High Blood Pressure. That shows in my first log of Helladrol.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/p...s/586515-getting-back-ph-its-been-awhile.html

The only thing I have is Hawthorne berry for that, which does not seem to be working well. But I was only taking 1200(2 caps), to 2400(4 caps) a day. Directions say 2 capsules 2 to 5 times a day...
SO maybe if I was at a higher dose...

Cut the chase.
Took BP at wal-mart machine-LOL
BP is at 163/79
I took about 5 measurements over a 20 minute period.
Diastolic was allways normal, below 80,
had an 82 once.
Lowest reading for systolic was 153, but it was allways higher. 163 was highest.

Factors:
I have had a cold for the past 2 days.
So, I wasn't in the gym for the past 3 days, one day off, then the cold. Plan on going tomorrow.
Did have to walk into Walmart after a drive. I get road rage easily. No patients...
Plus deciding "what cereal I want, and where the hell is the tuna with vegetable oil damnit, wow, here it is after 3 minutes of looking, right in front of my damn face."
Ok, back to the blood pressure machine.

So, I never did just sit and relax for a good 10 minutes and meditate about fairies and pixie dust.

Ok, so I am making excuses, yes, no matter which way you put it, my blood pressure is high my friends.

So, I am going to bump it down to 2 capsules a day for the rest of my cycle.
Clearly cant do 100mg/day.

Plus, I felt results after the 1st week at 50mg/day. And I have read of people here who believe that is their sweet spot, and dont feel the need to run any higher.

You get 180caps of the Helladrol. More than enough for 2 cycles. Kick ass deal.

Right now I have another cycle set aside in my old Helladrol bottle. Maybe in the future after my blood pressure subsides. It has the moisture bag and cotton in it. Plus in 2 zip lock bags. But that could be 4 months from now. I will be doing my training for my deployment to Afghanistan around that time. Will run at 50/50/50/50

Anyway, what are your thoughts fam...
Anything better for high BP...

 

[mich29]

what cycle supports are you running? are you getting enough water??

 

[DozerSoldier]

Milk Thistle Extract, 2000 to 3000mg per day.
Regular softgel pill form.
Plenty of water. Urine usually clear, maybe a slight hint of yellow every now and then.

Hawthorne Berry, 2400mg per day.

Obviously next time I need more advanced cycle support. Hopefully something that works with blood pressure also.

I have all ready got good gains this cycle. So I am doing 25mg Helladrol for next 4 days. Then off and PCT...

I would like to run 50/100/100/100/
But it doesn't look like I can.
I will just run 50 all the way next cycle.

Would you say that the blood pressure I'm at is more than what others normally get? Any one else actually check their blood pressure while running Helladrol? How are these people running 100mg, some even more?

I know high blood pressure for extended time is bad. But when I go off cycle, it bounces back in about 1 month or so. Back to normal.
Again: BP is at 163/79
I took about 5 measurements over a 20 minute period.
Diastolic was allways normal, below 80,
had an 82 once.
Lowest reading for systolic was 153, but it was allways higher. 163 was highest.

What works well to combat the raise in blood pressure? PM me if you wish.

 

[Blondie_Bombshell]

Why not just order some prescription bp meds and run them when you need them? Every pro that I know does this.

 

[grenmoyo]

^^^bump

 

[DozerSoldier]

Why not just order some prescription bp meds and run them when you need them? Every pro that I know does this.

I had an SRP(soldier readiness process). Basically, ran through predeployment health screening.
Blood draw, vitals, dental, anthrax booster, other.
The vitals were checked at 3 different locations during the process.

Each time the BP was normal.
Got back home, went to Wal-mart, and the test comes back high. Not to mention, when its testing my arm, it will inflate, then 10 second later, inflate even tighter. Pretty much all BP stations do that. The one on post inside the PX can never read my pressure. It goes for a minute or two, then resets. Yet, it gets others blood pressure reading. WEIRD.

Anyway, Im pretty sure the stations can't be trusted.

Hey Blondie_Bombshell, give me some examples of medication for BP..if you don't mind. Thanks

 

[Die$eL~Man]

see your md about some bp meds Benecar is awesome or Lorsitan Potassium

 

[viraj]

High blood pressure is a common condition in which the force of the blood against your artery walls is high enough that it may eventually cause health problems, such as heart disease.There are generally no symptoms of high blood pressure, so you usually don't feel it. In fact, nearly one-third of people who have hypertension don't know it. The only way to find out if you have high blood pressure is to get your blood pressure checked on a regular basis. This is especially important if you have a close relative who has high blood pressure.

 

[PrideNeverDie]

are you taking 5+ grams of fish oil?

 

[stiphy]

doziersoldier, im in the same boat. im in the 7th week of a test cycle. went and checked my bp and it was around the 150s/80 and sometimes into the 160s/80. got my lab results back on Tuesday and my estrogen was at 111. The normal is around 10-30. I increased my adex imput from .5eod to 1mg ed (also changed suppliers just in case). Started feeling better and bp has started to come down abit. Im hoping its normal in the next couple days. Ill keep you posted on that. So you may want to check your estogen, it might have something to do with the high bp.

I realize that this thread is an older one that was brought back to life but still thought i would post this incase anyone esle has the same issues.

 

[nerdalert]

I remember reading something that RJ had written that said something about taking calcium to help with high bp as well...

 

[Hawks58]

Just to toss this out there, don't know how many people know, I didn't until a doc told me. Make sure they are using the right size sleeve for your arm. I went to the hospital for a physical one time and the nurse freaked because my BP was 150/something. The doctor said the nurse should've used a larger sleeve. The doc grabbed the larger one, took my BP, and I was fine. Now I always look and see what sleeve they are using.

Just gonna go out on a limb and predict most people on this site are larger than your average person. There are different sleeve sizes which is one reason the Wal-Mart/PX machines suck. They are made for people with regular size arms. When you stick in a larger arm the reading comes back as being much higher then what it actually is.

 

[stiphy]

the ones at walmart and places like that do say something like "for arms between 9 and 15 inches"