High Blood Pressure, Please Help!!

[timeattack]

Solid point and should of mentioned that too, I know things are different in Canada but if you can find a way to get labs done that's the best route to surely know if it's e2.

Just pointing out bigswole he did mention he's in week 11 with no AI the whole time, it's safe to say most would need an AI at 400mg unless they personally like the water retention.. correct? Seems like it's possible his body has finally just packed on enough water to spike it after 11 weeks, or it could of been elevated prior and it just wasn't caught. Have you been checking BP the whole 11 weeks?

Either way if you start and AI be conservative don't start pounding huge doses or that will lead to more issues. Definitely try to get labs if you somehow can.

My blood pressure issues began about 5 days after my last shot. I normally keep track of my BP, been doing it for a long time even before I went on. I'd check it before and after my workout, then again the following afternoon to see if i had recovered. It always went back to normal by the next day.

My last shot was December 3rd. I have missed a shot since then, it was due on December 10th, but the way things were happening I was to worried to do the shot.

Workout was December 4 at 10pm. Checked it on December 5th about 24hrs after the workout, it was slightly elevated. Checked again the morning of the 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th. It climbed everyday to the point where it peaked at around 159/107 i can't remember exactly.

When resting I could get it down to around normal, but if I got up and walked for 20 seconds, it would jump up extremely high.

 

[timeattack]

Alright so here's my BP last night after walking up the driveway from the car, taking off my boots and jacket then walking up the stairs, sat down and took it. Absolutely shit for such a tiny amount of activity. So I took 12.5mg Aromasin, drank a couple bottles of water and went to bed.

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Here's my BP 12 hours later! This is still a little high compared to my norm, but drastically better than last night.

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I want to thank everyone who took the time to read and respond! I was a couple of really shitty days for me, you all helped me thru it. Much appreciated!

 

[Milton]

Alright so here's my BP last night after walking up the driveway from the car, taking off my boots and jacket then walking up the stairs, sat down and took it. Absolutely shit for such a tiny amount of activity. So I took 12.5mg Aromasin, drank a couple bottles of water and went to bed.

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Here's my BP 12 hours later! This is still a little high compared to my norm, but drastically better than last night.

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I want to thank everyone who took the time to read and respond! I was a couple of really shitty days for me, you all helped me thru it. Much appreciated!

your definitely close to hypertension levels at normal blood pressure reading. Have you had your thyroid checked lately? How about a sleep apnea test?

 

[3J]

here is a simple way to get your blood pressure down.. if it isn't anxiety related

take the following supplements
chelated magnesium
potassium

and drink 1.5 gallons of water a day..

this causes a fluid balance in the body and usually reduces bp..

adding 3mg cialis daily helps as well

 

[timeattack]

your definitely close to hypertension levels at normal blood pressure reading. Have you had your thyroid checked lately? How about a sleep apnea test?

This number isn't really my norm, when I'm running and completely off I'm usually around 115/72 or so. This is an improvement from yesterday, but I don't think I've flushed all of the water just yet. I'll see my maintenance level by tomorrow evening. I've never had my thyroid levels checked, I don't believe I have sleep apnea as I sleep very well.

 

[Milton]

This number isn't really my norm, when I'm running and completely off I'm usually around 115/72 or so. This is an improvement from yesterday, but I don't think I've flushed all of the water just yet. I'll see my maintenance level by tomorrow evening. I've never had my thyroid levels checked, I don't believe I have sleep apnea as I sleep very well.

3J has given you great advice. I sleep well too but have sleep apnea and didnt discover it till I had a sleep test done. Can you ask your wife or GF is she notices anything while you sleep? its how i discovered and its what motivated me to go get a sleep study done as all the girls said that I stopped breathing while I slept.

 

[Roush]

i think your a little bit over reacting . yes long term hypertension can cause health problems , but elevated BP when starting out a steroid cycle for the first time in years is to be expected. Did you not read the pharmacology on the drug/hormone your taking , did it not say right there that HIGH BP is a direct side effect of taking said drug? of course it did.

I went to the doc with my BP at 220/108 . the doc sent me home and told me to stop working out so much and stop taking so much testosterone (this was one of my earlier cycles years ago). If he thought I was going to suddenly kill over dead cause of the BP , he would not of sent me home and told me I'd be fine if I'd just cool it with the gear use.

of coarse now that I've learned over the years how to control my estrogen, water retention , fluid balance, electrolytes , etc.. I can run a heavy cycle and my BP goes from my normal 110/60 to about 135/75 . so no problem now. but its something to be aware of . you know how many bodybuilders and powerlifters are on gear and walking around with 180/90 or higher blood pressure . plenty.

If your so worried about it then just stop you cycle. Or see it through, but not worth it if your going to be stressed out about your health and a nervous wreck everyday.

if you can get some Centruline Malate (usually sold as a pre workout to help with blood flow). that lowers my blood pressure 10-15 points within 30 or so mins of taking it.


just my 2 cents man. this is all just part of the game .

 

[Anon44]

You just verified how much if an idiot my doctor is my bp the past two visits was 135-137/ 80-90 and she was talking about if I don't bring it diwn she wants to put me on meds.

All doctors want to do is push bullshit!!

I think my bp is pretty good since I'm on tren test mast and the first visit was also using ephedrine and the second was on clen.

 

[Roush]

You just verified how much if an idiot my doctor is my bp the past two visits was 135-137/ 80-90 and she was talking about if I don't bring it diwn she wants to put me on meds.

All doctors want to do is push bullshit!!

I think my bp is pretty good since I'm on tren test mast and the first visit was also using ephedrine and the second was on clen.

they prob get kick backs from big pharma for prescribing meds

 

[timeattack]

Hey everyone, so here's an update. I've been taking the aromasin for a few days now. I've also been taking a diurex caplet 3 times a day. My blood pressure has returned to a reasonable level at rest. But the rest of the crappy symptoms such as anxiety, bloating and stuffy head (brain fog) is still prevalent. To sum it up, I feel like shit. I don't know if my aromasin isn't working and it's just the diurex flushing water or what's happening.

So I just want to get off and start PCT. But I don't know how to go about this without making it worse. Every cycle I've come off I've felt like a million bucks going into pct. My usual course of action is HCG about 10 days after my last shot, then nolva to follow.

But this time I have no clue what to do. Hoping the experts could give me some advice. I do not want to make things worse. Thanks in advance.

 

[Roush]

you should have been taking HCG to begin with if your plan was to pct and recover natty test again. Your having these issues, have you even got around to getting blood work done yet and seen where your estrogen levels are at ? going into Pct with really elevated estrogen is going to make pct and recovery a bitch.

the proper way to do it is to run HCG on your cycle and control estrogen with an AI , ,THEN when you go into Pct you use Nolva and Clomid.

sounds like you were not running an AI or HCG on cycle . so now you need to improvise . you need to get your Estrogen in check , you can blast HCG for 10 days to stimulate natty production, but you'll need a heavy dose of AI too (as HCG will cause more estrogen) . then after that you can run the Nolva and Clomid.


to start though if your wanting to get off , then just come off the test , go get bloodwork, and go from there. having no test in your system isn't going to kill you, and at least your Bp will go down, as well as the water retention, and estrogen . so just stop the test

 

[carverelli]

Pulse is high as well bro

 

[Milton]

hows that BP looking these days?

 

[timeattack]

hows that BP looking these days?

Hey brother thanks for inquiring. The blood pressure and heart rate are great now. Have been checking it three times a day in both arms. Upon waking before food or drink, mid day and before bed.

I do still have some horrible anxiety, mostly for the first 8 hours of the day. After 6pm or so, I begin to feel alright. I noticed that I wake up with it, it peaks mid morning and slowly goes away through out the evening hours. I was thinking my estro or test was still way out of wack.

I know it sounds weird, but I'm starting to think I may be sensitive to aromasin. The timing makes sense, when I was taking 25mg divided per day the anxiety/uneasiness lasted all day and night. When I went down to 12.5mg at 3am, the uneasiness lasts until around 4pm. I know this isn't common, but it is listed at one of the possible sides. So I'm not taking it tomorrow and I'll see how it goes. In the evening, I feel like I'm back to my old self. So hopefully that's it.

Either way I have an appointment tomorrow to get a full blood panel done where I will get the results. I will post once I know the numbers. Thanks again!

 

[timeattack]

Okay so I got the test results back. My testosterone is showing at 70.5 mmol/l and estradiol is showing <40 mmol/l. Thyroid shows normal.
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[Milton]

hows your blood pressure?

 

[timeattack]

It's back to normal, was 115/75 last night before bed in the right arm, 121/80 in the left. The doctor says my test is "very high", he's aware that I take test. But that level being very high is based on what it should be if I was natural correct?

My triglycerides showed in the lower normal range, but my hdl showed low and my LDL showed a bit high. I'm assuming that the test and low estradiol have something to do with it since I eat well take a lot of fish oils, garlic, ubiquionol etc.

 

[Milton]

It's back to normal, was 115/75 last night before bed in the right arm, 121/80 in the left. The doctor says my test is "very high", he's aware that I take test. But that level being very high is based on what it should be if I was natural correct?

My triglycerides showed in the lower normal range, but my hdl showed low and my LDL showed a bit high. I'm assuming that the test and low estradiol have something to do with it since I eat well take a lot of fish oils, garlic, ubiquionol etc.

what are you taking ubiquionol for?

 

[Milton]

do you have a history of diabetes or kidney disease in your family?

 

[timeattack]

My grandfather was diagnosed with diabetes in his late 70s. But no history or heart disease. I've taken ubiquionol at 200mg per day for the past four years. Just a preemptive measure to protect the heart and everything else.