High tren low test vs. high test low tren?

[Bigshow1047]

Below is all my stats and the cycle I plan on starting in April. I think I might change things up now. I am adding anavar into this cycle at 70 mgs for 7 weeks. I got it for half price so why not.

The main questions I have here! Should I run my tren dosage higher than test? If that's the case what dosage should I run it at? Running over 400 mgs of tren sounds crazy to me. What is your guys sweet spot? My main concern is libido. If higher tren is going to fuck that up then I'm not following that route. No point in being ripped up if you are not able to slay in the process.

Hgh vets- is hgh at 4 ius a day for 4 months going to make a huge difference?


Proviron- I was going to add this in at 25 to 50 mgs a day all throughout my pct and one month after that.


Please help me out here. Thanks!









starting cycle in April. It has now been over a year and I am looking to come into this summer looking perfect.
Stats- Age -27
Height 6ft 1 225 pounds. 12% body fat.

I have 3 cycles under my belt.

Cycle 1- test e at 500mg a week for 10 weeks. Pct - I just tapered off.

Cycle 2- test e at 500mg a week for 12 weeks tren A at 250 mgs for 8 weeks. Pct- nova and clomid. terrible recovery!!

Cycle 3- test e 600mgs for 16 weeks. Deca at 400 mgs a week for 12 weeks. Anavar at 80 mgs a day for 7 weeks. Hcg 500 Ius a week during cycle. Ran 500 ius for 10 days after cycle then started pct 4 days after. Pct- clomid and nova. I also ran arimidex and dostinex during this cycle. Recovered great!!!!


Cycle i am going to start in April!!!

Test c at 500mgs a week for 16 weeks. Tren A at 300 mgs for 8 weeks! Hgh at 4ius everday for 5 months. Anavar at 70mgs a day for 7 weeks.

Hcg I will run at 500 ius a week during cycle.

I will run dostinex at 1 mg a week to keep prolactin in check! This also keeps the sex drive on point! Super fun to run.

I always keep arimidex on hand and use as needed.

Pct will be Hcg at 500ius for 10 days after last shot! Then a 4 day break and I will start my clomid and nova.

Clomid- 50/50/50/50
Novadex- 20/20/10/10

Any suggestions are appreciated! Thanks

 

[Milton]

Welcome to the forums!

 

[Teutonic]

welcome

Being Mr. Low dose...I m usually never more than 250 of each per week so I ll await those that KNOW but...I really don t know...

 

[tbonexl]

You can use proviron during cycle but only thing in pct should be nolva and clomid. Hgh should be used for a very minimum of 6 months. Most don't run it because of the price. Low test/high tren run is a good cycle. Less sides are common during this type of cycle. With tren a, you can jump off quick and sides will fade fast if a problem occurs...

 

[Bigshow1047]

Thanks for the input!!
I was going to run proviron in my post and a month after because one of my sources which is one of the biggest ones out there says a lot of people run it in pct at a very low dose. I have been reading that under 100 mgs is not going to shut you down at all. I was going to run it very low to see if it helps hold on to more gains.

Would you say 6 months of hgh is worth the price for the benefits you get from it?

My only worry with running high tren is the weird effects it had on my libido the first time I tried it.

Basically I would be super horny all the time but I wouldn't get completely hard. I also would nut super quick while I would be half chubbed haha. Let's just say it started to mess with my head. I'm guessing my prolactin levels were really high. I never had this issue before. Muscle wise I was the most ripped up I have ever been and the strongest.

I'm willing to give tren another go because I have prepared myself with a ton of dostinex.

 

[Bigshow1047]

I am loving this forum. It's like a steroid fucking cook book. I used to always read up on it but I never made a username or posted anything. I have learned so much from it and have saved probably 10 of my friends from completely fucking up a cycle. They all come to me for advice and I try my best to pass on everything I know.

 

[Repo]

In most cases I'm running my tren higher then test.

As the tren goes up - the test should go down - and this should only be done if you
know how your body reacts to tren when you running it at high levels.

Both test and tren are very androgenic and compete for the same androgen receptors -
so you really want to have more of the dry lean and mass gains from tren over test.

My two types of test and tren cycles are either... all balls out with tren at 600-800mg and test very low - 200-300mg
or test all balls out at 750mg to a gram - with a mild tren dose of 200-400mg.

The test-c 500 and tren-a 300 planning on should work well.

Your plan of running hCG at 500iu's a week should work out ok... however I would run your hCG at
500iu twice a week with this cycle... 5 weeks on 1 week off - repeat.

 

[.Vision.]

In most cases I'm running my tren higher then test.

As the tren goes up - the test should go down - and this should only be done if you
know how your body reacts to tren when you running it at high levels.

Both test and tren are very androgenic and compete for the same androgen receptors -
so you really want to have more of the dry lean and mass gains from tren over test.

My two types of test and tren cycles are either... all balls out with tren at 600-800mg and test very low - 200-300mg
or test all balls out at 750mg to a gram - with a mild tren dose of 200-400mg.

The test-c 500 and tren-a 300 planning on should work well.

Your plan of running hCG at 500iu's a week should work out ok... however I would run your hCG at
500iu twice a week with this cycle... 5 weeks on 1 week off - repeat.

This all day long.... 10000%

 

[Bigshow1047]

Thanks for the advice Repo. I am going to Change my Hcg dose to 1000ius a week with 5 weeks on 1 week off.

Which cycle did you have the higher libido on? The high tren low test or high test low tren?

Also lets say I do decide to run high tren low test. Something like 600 mgs tren 300 mgs test. I will be done running my tren at my 10th week so then should I bump my test up for the last 6 weeks of my cycle?

Haha no way am I going over 600 mgs of tren. That's if 600mgs is not to much for me. How fucking shredded were you on 800 mgs of tren? Body fat percentage wise?

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

What is your cycle experence and stats. That the first place to start. Tren isnt for everyone. High doses need losts of water consumption and then you feel full all the time and eating becomes a problem.

If you dont have a vagina why would you run anavar ?

 

[Bigshow1047]

I posted my cycle experience and stats up top. I like running var because I can run it for 8 weeks with out any issues. Plus I got it half off because it was the product of the week. The only other oral I like is turanibol. I was not a fan of dbol. I don't have a problem with eating. Last time I ran tren my appetite was great. If it starts to be a problem I will throw on the head phones and force myself to eat. I started lifting at 18 and went from 145 pounds to 225 pounds over my lifting career. I'm sure I could have bulked up even more but I didn't want to.