How do you feel on TRT? 400 ng dl ----> 1000 ng dl

[Low dose PCT]

Hello. First, i must say i'm not talking about you if your pre TRT level was 200.

I'm talking about guys who have 400 ng dl of testosterone and went to TRT (1000 ng dl )

How do you feel?

 

[Roush]

so your talking about guys who had normal testosterone to begin with. And who more then likely would not be receiving doctor prescribed TRT anyways.


- if a guy has a medical condition and needs treatment , well more then likely that treatment is going to make him feel a whole lot better

- if a guy does NOT have a medical condition , and you treat him for that condition anyways , he is probably not going to fee all that different (being there is no need for treatment)

 

[Low dose PCT]

so your talking about guys who had normal testosterone to begin with ? And who more then likely would not be receiving doctor prescribed TRT anyways

Yea 400 is not bad. But i want to hear how these guys feel while on 1000 ng dl?

 

[Roush]

Yea 400 is not bad. But i want to hear how these guys feel while on 1000 ng dl?

yeah , but 'what guys' ..? doctors don't prescribe these guys TRT . so I doubt there are really any of them out there to come forward and tell you

 

[Jimstigator]

Yea 400 is not bad. But i want to hear how these guys feel while on 1000 ng dl?

So your question, with the mask removed is....

"I have a TT of 400. What do you guys think it would feel like if I got on TRT and raised it to 1000"?

Most here would say don't get on TRT, but those same guys will run above average T levels once on TRT. You would feel better. Energy, mood, libido, muscle gain... likely all improve to a degree.

 

[Low dose PCT]

So your question, with the mask removed is....

"I have a TT of 400. What do you guys think it would feel like if I got on TRT and raised it to 1000"?

Most here would say don't get on TRT, but those same guys will run above average T levels once on TRT. You would feel better. Energy, mood, libido, muscle gain... likely all improve to a degree.

No I have 600 ng dl. My T was 400 and ran a cycle. T came back 600 ng dl and my testicles is bigger a bit. But I dont feel god damn thing.

 

[Roush]

if your a steroid user or abuser , then just blast and cruise and be done with it .. don't pretend your a TRT patient . After you're done running all the gear you'll probably end up running, your hpta will be permanently shut down, you'll be F'd ,, and then you'll find a doctor that will feel sorry for your ass and treat you and put you on TRT.

but if you had normal testosterone levels, and you've ran a cycle and they've went down since, well what did you expect would happen .. your not hypogonadal. you shut yourself down by your own CHOICE.

- someone that is normal and not hypogonadal to begin with is NOT going to feel a huge difference from 400 to 1000. why not ? because they have lived their whole life with normal testosterone levels, there is no real 'correction 'taking place here

- someone that is NOT normal and is hyphogonadal to begin with, will feel a huge difference going from low t, to 1000 . why ? because they have lived their whole life with very low non-normal levels . there is a deficiently being corrected. there is a 'cure' taking place .. sometimes that small correction actually results in an anabolic response (the guy will feel like he is on a super physiological amount of gear)

 

[Roush]

No I have 600 ng dl. My T was 400 and ran a cycle. T came back 600 ng dl and my testicles is bigger a bit. But I dont feel god damn thing.

if you've had normal test levels your whole life .. your not going to really notice or feel a huge difference from 400 to 600.. and if you decide to treat yourself and get yourself to 1000 by injecting test,, well your hpta will shut down even more, you'll risk being on trt for life ,, and you probably won't notice that big a difference going to 1000.


* if however you had a REAL problem , and you were hypogondal your whole life .. then getting to 1000 would be a HUGE difference

 

[halfwit]

No I have 600 ng dl. My T was 400 and ran a cycle. T came back 600 ng dl and my testicles is bigger a bit. But I dont feel god damn thing.

It makes me feel sexxy.


*cough*



Just in case I'm wrong, and this isn't a revisit from one of our fans, I'm going to tell you this: You came back at a higher testosterone level because that's what SERMs do. They were still in your system, and you pulled blood.

Look at your LH and FSH. I bet they're quite high.


Sorry dude, but you're coming across as someone that truly has no business dabbling with AAS yet. One cycle in, shit PCT, and already thinking of cruising/TRT.

My .02c

 

[Low dose PCT]

No i dont want to be on trt. Injections are so annoying.

 

[jasil]

Easier to gain muscle, bloat, a little acne, strength, but no real difference. I was mid 300's and 1000-1200 then dialef back to 700-800 after a year.

Then got so tired of pinning just stopped...T went to 208....didnt feel much different and water weight came off. I dont wven know what Im at know probably really low IDK....but aside from being smaller than I was Im good and NO pinning

Viagra any day over Testosterone imo.

 

[halfwit]

Easier to gain muscle, bloat, a little acne, strength, but no real difference. I was mid 300's and 1000-1200 then dialef back to 700-800 after a year.

Then got so tired of pinning just stopped...T went to 208....didnt feel much different and water weight came off. I dont wven know what Im at know probably really low IDK....but aside from being smaller than I was Im good and NO pinning

Viagra any day over Testosterone imo.

So.... You're either full of shit, or you haven't been hypogonadal long enough yet.

If the latter, don't worry - you'll be saving money on viagra too, as you won't WANT to get laid.

 

[halfape211]

Easier to gain muscle, bloat, a little acne, strength, but no real difference. I was mid 300's and 1000-1200 then dialef back to 700-800 after a year.

Then got so tired of pinning just stopped...T went to 208....didnt feel much different and water weight came off. I dont wven know what Im at know probably really low IDK....but aside from being smaller than I was Im good and NO pinning

Viagra any day over Testosterone imo.

Here's my concern about stopping TRT for you. I wonder if prolonged low T will cause enough damage to your body that future TRT will not fix your low T symptoms. TRT changed my life but I'm only 80% of what I used to be, after years of Low T. And when you are on TRT, you need to balance other hormones like E2, supplement with DHEA, etc. . BTW Something is just not right with this story. Test wont 'do it all. You need to analyse this a little more. Good luck

 

[CobraMustangSVT]

To answer the original question, I have a friend who heard me raving about the benefits that I experienced going from 277-290 to 600-800. He wanted to experience the same euphoria. He did a starvation diet and stayed up all weekend and took his test on Monday. He came in at 340's or so. The doc retested and he took an even longer starvation diet and came in at 240. He was put on TRT

He felt the euphoria for the first several months. Then, as his body adjusted, he didn't feel it like he used to. Now he's at the upper limits and has high estrogen so he needs an AI. He also has high HCT so he has to donate blood every couple of months. All the donations are causing him to have low iron so he has to supplement that.

For him, it wasn't worth it. Even I felt the same euphoria for the first several weeks to several months but after a while, you normalize and now, I just feel 'regular'

 

[halfwit]

Everyone is different. Not like you. If he feels fine, he shouldn't be on TRT. TRT is not like taking a vitamin everyday. It has side effects too.

Uninformed and extremely inaccurate statement. Testosterone is actually MORE important than a vitamin, as it's a key hormone responsible for actually using them.

I apologize for coming at you like this, but I spent a DECADE with low T, and I absolutely PROMISE you that the "side effects" of such VASTLY outweigh the already existent risk of LVH - which is the ONLY negative truly attributed to testosterone replacement therapy.

Diabetes, hypothyroidism, metaboolic shutdown, erectile dysfunction, deterioration of the cardiovascular system, neural deficiency, dopamine deficiency (which leads to a whole host of nasties), estradiol dominance (another nasty), obesity, renal complications - and finally DEATH can occur.

These are the medical facts.

Now I do agree that TRT is not intended for anyone looking to get "jacked"; however, if one is hypogonadal it is akin to having their testes put back on their body.

I really hope that my aggressive demeanor isn't giving the wrong message, I'm just very passionate about the topic.

 

[halfwit]

Oh double post, how I loathe thee.

 

[halfape211]

Everyone is different. Not like you. If he feels fine, he shouldn't be on TRT. TRT is not like taking a vitamin everyday. It has side effects too.

First of all I think he can make up his own mind. And I'm well aware of the good and bad of TRT. Probably a lot more than you know about it. I'm not pushing him to start TRT. He has already been on TRT. Have you read his other posts, before you with your medical opinions?? And I know about being different. My body is not nearly the norm, when it comes to hormones. So don't suggest that I don't know what I'm talking about.

What makes you think that because he thinks he 'feels fine' that he shouldn't consider both sides of a decision about stopping TRT. Most important, do you actually know that being at 208TT is healthy? Do you know anyone that is at 208TT and is not having problems of some kind?? Because if you believe that if Jasil stays at 208TT he will be placing himself in the best possible position for good future health, I'd like for you to provide the data. If you want to make statements on here, please back them up with facts, like medical studies, etc.

I'm suggesting that he considers the long term effects of being severely hypogonadal on his body. That there is a possibility that he may not become fully recovered if his TT is low enough for a long enough period of time. It's natural that his body needs testosterone. Without enough of it, he is probably deficient in other hormones that are make along the HPTA pathway. He can and will make his own decision. But, I'm not on here to grandstand. I and others here would like to help him make his own decision. He actually seems to have his mind made up to stay away from TRT, and maybe he should. But I hope he will gather information from this forum and make the best decision he can for himself. My guess is that his dissatisfaction with higher amounts of T, actually lies with lack of DHEA, an excess of E2, etc. That's why I suggested he look into this more deeply. So Jack34, We're just trying to genuinely help others on this forum. We're not trying to impress each other or shit on each other. I see you are very new to this forum. I hope you fit in and look forward to any contributions you can make in the future


Oh dear!!! I think we have another troll based on his other argumentative posts

 

[halfape211]

Queen said it best in the song "Another one bites the dust"!!

And my sincere thanks to the powers that be for slaying another troll


(I noticed his posts started right after the time school got out!! Wish I had researched his profile before I spent time replying. But he only lasted this evening, before he was gone.)