How Do You Help Somebody Who is Abusing AAS?

[Greens]

I began my first cycle in September with a friend who has a decade or so of experience using AAS. I took his word as the truth as far as dosage levels and type of gear to use,..and I ended up over my 12 week cycle using 3-10ml Sustanon (sust) 250, 1 Deca 250, and 1 EQ 200,..which worked out great. My concern is not with me,..but with him. He started his cycle the same day as I did, and has gone through 4 Sustanon (sust) 250, 3 Deca 250, a bottle of D-bol, a bottle of A-bombs, and a 20ml vial of Tren,..he just told me that he got another Sustanon (sust), another Deca and a bottle of 20mg D-bols, and put 2cc's of each into his delts, and put two D-bols down the hatch,..and he intends to get 3 more Sustanon (sust) and 3 more Deca in a few weeks time.

Maybe it's my inexperience speaking, but it seems completely insane to be running that much this long,..does anybody have any insight or advice on how to approach him on this? I've asked him why he's taking so much and if he's worried about having major health problems shortly, and he responds with things like "pro wrestlers never come off, and they take 10 times the amount that I do", or "I don't get any sides, I take LiverCare, I must be fine, my body must take well to it". He also says things like he WON'T let himself lose any size or strength, and that he HAS to bench 500+lbs, and that the best PCT to use is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and even then, his nuts haven't shrunk so there's no need for it.
He's only 35, 5'10", and has gone from 230lbs in September to 265 last week.
Thanks

 

[B-BOI]

It's his body you really can't do fuck all.

 

[blazeftp]

If he doesn't come of he will be stuck on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of his life.

He really needs to stop there is no point in injecting yourself with countless substances over and over.

There will come a point where his body won't be able to handle it.

But if he wants to walk that path you can't really stop him.
Good chance he won't even listen to you since he was the one that started you on steroids.
He will think he knows better.

 

[Wormwood]

The only way to help drug abusers is to tell them that you and other people care about and love them and that their actions are hurting other people and then you urge them to get proffessional help.

There ya go.

 

[UODucks]

Is that you Steve?
Ill go off when Im ready

 

[drewbolic]

I smell an intervention

 

[ECKSRATED]

Tell his family. Wife, girlfriend, mom or dad if your that worried. They'll get into his head and make him think wisely. I had a drug problem a few years ago and it took me a long time to realize I had a problem. When you see that your problem is hurting the ones closest to you, most people will stop.

 

[drewbolic]

Look I dont believe you can abuse AAS on the same level as street drugs so dont get his family involved your getting worried because he is doing alot of gear and has been on for a while in your words but its not like he is stealing his mothers tv to score some dbol,so relax talk to him.But its really not your place

 

[safety-man]

if he has 10 years under his belt and knows what he is doing than thats not really a lot of gear, come to think of it ill do more vials in a cycle and i dont have 10 years in...

 

[ECKSRATED]

Look I dont believe you can abuse AAS on the same level as street drugs so dont get his family involved your getting worried because he is doing alot of gear and has been on for a while in your words but its not like he is stealing his mothers tv to score some dbol,so relax talk to him.But its really not your place

You can't abuse steroids??? Are you serious?? So if your close friend was goin bananas with gear u wouldn't try to stop him?? I know I would. Obviously were different.

 

[drewbolic]

You can't abuse steroids??? Are you serious?? So if your close friend was goin bananas with gear u wouldn't try to stop him?? I know I would. Obviously were different.

Well since your calling me out why dont you quote me correctly.
I said cant abuse AAS on the same level as street drugs.

So please clarified going bananas with gear.
And yes,yes we are different

 

[ECKSRATED]

Well since your calling me out why dont you quote me correctly.
I said cant abuse AAS on the same level as street drugs.

So please clarified going bananas with gear.
And yes,yes we are fdifferent

Ok there's no need to be a smart ass and act like your tough. I'm just saying there are people out there that inject more and more steroids everyday because they thiknk they need it to get bigger or whatever. Just like a heroin addict who needs more and more to get high.

All I'm sayin is there are people out there that go "bananas" with steroids. Jose canseco was ADDICTED to them and abused them for almost 20 years. Lost his family, money, and everything else because of his problems. Guess we all have different veiws on things.

 

[Greens]

I was concerned with the amount that he has taken,..I mean, when you take into consideration the latest gear that he's now on,..and, if you consider single bottles of Dbol and Adrol as the equivalent of a 10ml vial, and the 20mg Dbol as a 20ml vial,..in three weeks that will mean that he's been through 15 vials in 16 weeks, then after the pending order, he'll be 21 vials in 24 weeks...with no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and no interest in Clomid or Nolvadex,..possibly Amiridex with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) afterwards,..but that's it,..and on top of that he said he's planning for a 16 week Sust/Anavar/Winni cycle to cut-down in the spring..oh,..I forgot,...add some booze into the diet, as well as Vicodin.

 

[safety-man]

I was concerned with the amount that he has taken,..I mean, when you take into consideration the latest gear that he's now on,..and, if you consider single bottles of Dbol and Adrol as the equivalent of a 10ml vial, and the 20mg Dbol as a 20ml vial,..in three weeks that will mean that he's been through 15 vials in 16 weeks, then after the pending order, he'll be 21 vials in 24 weeks...with no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and no interest in Clomid or Nolvadex,..possibly Amiridex with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) afterwards,..but that's it,..and on top of that he said he's planning for a 16 week Sust/Anavar/Winni cycle to cut-down in the spring..oh,..I forgot,...add some booze into the diet, as well as Vicodin.

tell your buddy to join our board and layout his cycle for us and if it needs adjustments im sure the members will fill him in. and hey, nothing wrong with a little vicodin from time to time

 

[RJ]

Ok there's no need to be a smart ass and act like your tough. I'm just saying there are people out there that inject more and more steroids everyday because they thiknk they need it to get bigger or whatever. Just like a heroin addict who needs more and more to get high.

All I'm sayin is there are people out there that go "bananas" with steroids. Jose canseco was ADDICTED to them and abused them for almost 20 years. Lost his family, money, and everything else because of his problems. Guess we all have different veiws on things.

maybe so, but Canseco had a mental addiction because he was weak. It was a lack of willpower. Coke and meth and shit cause physical addictions. It is very different. Sure you can abuse steroids, but not nearly the same concept.

Either way, just sit him down and talk to him if you're that worried. But ask yourself this. Why are you worried? Do you fear he will die? Fear he may get too big? O fear he may go all Benoit and kill his wife and son and then himself? And then think about losing your friendship, cause he may be fine what he's doing, you may be over-reacting and you could lose your buddy as a friend. Its up to you.

So unless he's acting strange or violent, etc. I'd let it go. I would NOT tell his family. If one of my friends did that shit I would beat their fucking head in. This is his responsibility and not yours.

 

[Booger1]

You two should go get blood tests done (look up blondiebombshell's post on the subject). If he cares for your feelings as much as you care for his health, you guys should have no problems. Once the test results are in, either he will back off on the gear or you will get off hsi back about his gear use. its a win - win.

 

[TonySuicideKing]

lmao wow... if he wants to do it, that is his issue. Not yours. If he wants to go down that road he will... What happens when you report him and he gets caught with the shit. I known alot of friends who were reported by there family cause they didnt want to deal with it. Try being smart about this. What he does with his life is his decision and his only. If he got busted and fined, i dont think you would have to worry about his life desicions... i would be more worried about yours in general. cause if i was ever to be narked or screwed over cause a friend was worried about me... I would kill the mother fucker, no doubt in my mind.

 

[ECKSRATED]

maybe so, but Canseco had a mental addiction because he was weak. It was a lack of willpower. Coke and meth and shit cause physical addictions. It is very different. Sure you can abuse steroids, but not nearly the same concept.

Either way, just sit him dowcn and talk to him if you're that worried. But ask yourself this. Why are you worried? Do you fear he will die? Fear he may get too big? O fear he may go all Benoit and kill his wife and son and then himself? And then think about losing your friendship, cause he may be fine what he's doing, you may be over-reacting and you could lose your buddy as a friend. Its up to you.

So unless he's acting strange or violent, etc. I'd let it go. I would NOT tell his family. If one of my friends did that shit I would beat their fucking head in. This is his responsibility and not yours.

I only said tell his family or whatever if it was really that bad. This guy might be lieing telling u he's taking all this shit anyways just to seem tough or something. I dunno. All that gear might be the norm for him the last ten years. Who knows.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

You two should go get blood tests done (look up blondiebombshell's post on the subject). If he cares for your feelings as much as you care for his health, you guys should have no problems. Once the test results are in, either he will back off on the gear or you will get off hsi back about his gear use. its a win - win.

thats what i would do.

RJ my bro-were cool

But i was under the impression that only heroin, nicotene and alcohol could cause physical dependency????

 

[ECKSRATED]

thats what i would do.

RJ my bro-were cool

But i was under the impression that only heroin, nicotene and alcohol could cause physical dependency????

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