How low can you go ? Super low T

Hogans hero

Hogans hero

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I picked up copy's of my 2 most recent blood labs and man was I shocked. Shocked at numbers and shocked doc wouldn't up my dose In January my total test level was 68. Free was 2.8. Ill post copy's later today. After six months of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose plus another 500 mg every week , total was up to 248 and free around 4 All of this was bfor I found y'all so I didn't ask to check e2. I will next time. Couple of ?? Does it get much lower than 68 ? Btw I'm 32. Also do any docs bleive in gettin u to optimal levels instead of just " in range " ?? And I'm sure if I tell my doc I took 1200 mg every two weeks instead of 200 to get up to 240ng that'll b the end of my script.
 
what units are you talking about? 500mg/week test is way too much for a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). you need 200mg max, no need to go higher
and btw there is thread on the forum dedicated to trt
 
Trt dose IS 200 mg every 2 weeks. I said that. I added 500 mg a week of test. If the mods think it should b in testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum they'll move it
 
If u r not gonna answer questions or b helpful why respond to a thread. Btw there is a forum dedicated to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) not a thread
 
Something's off here... Is your extra 500mg per week Pharmaceutical grade or from an UGL? You're essentially taking 600mg of test per week which should have your levels through the roof. Not just at optimal levels, but extremely high. I know on 600mg per week my levels are between 4000 and 5000 depending on time of draw.

What ester are you taking?

Honestly, if your supplemental test is coming from an UGL I would question the potency of the product.

It occurs to me that if you are injecting your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose all at once, and your supplemental test is bogus, you could be experiencing a "valley" when you get your levels tested, meaning you are being tested when the exogenous test is at the end of it's run from the injection therefore leading to low test levels (since the exogenous test has shut down your natural production).
 
to avoid "valleys" you can inject your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose every 5 days or so (just divide the dose up). The cypionate and enanthate ester have a half life that suggests injecting once a week minimum for steady blood levels.

and the answer your other question, yes there are docs that are concerned with getting you to optimal levels. When I'm "crusing" my doctor is ok with keeping my levels around 1600 ng/dl... But my doctor also knows I'm a bodybuilder working on a pro card and would just do it on my own if he objected. This way, he can keep an eye on things (at least that's what he says).

Truthfully, I keep my levels higher unless I'm going in for a checkup or bloods.
 
Swole78 said:
Something's off here... Is your extra 500mg per week Pharmaceutical grade or from an UGL? You're essentially taking 600mg of test per week which should have your levels through the roof. Not just at optimal levels, but extremely high. I know on 600mg per week my levels are between 4000 and 5000 depending on time of draw.

What ester are you taking?

Honestly, if your supplemental test is coming from an UGL I would question the potency of the product.

It occurs to me that if you are injecting your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose all at once, and your supplemental test is bogus, you could be experiencing a "valley" when you get your levels tested, meaning you are being tested when the exogenous test is at the end of it's run from the injection therefore leading to low test levels (since the exogenous test has shut down your natural

Most of the supplement test was pharm stuff. 1 month of ugl test but its good stuff. The last month bfor my bloods I dropped back to try dose only. I wanted my numbers to b low enough to get scrip. I just didn't think they'd b that low
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are you injecting every 2 weeks or every week or more often? Also, how many days after pin are you getting bloods done?
 
:wtf:68ng total test ? Were you ever on just 100mg/wk (200mg/2/wks) ?? Thats the standard start for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) . Then you go from there .....
 
BoBoy said:
:wtf:68ng total test ? Were you ever on just 100mg/wk (200mg/2/wks) ?? Thats the standard start for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) . Then you go from there .....
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Yea I was on protocol dose about a year ago. Doc quit and it took a few months to get testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) started again. So this time I upped my dose
 
Why are you on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), HH? At your age, you'd be a great candidate for a restart. Do you know the cause of low T? Are you primary or secondary?
 
Austin1 said:
Why are you on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), HH? At your age, you'd be a great candidate for a restart. Do you know the cause of low T? Are you primary or secondary?
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Donno what HH is. Also don't know tha cause. I have no other issues so I'm not sure what's up. My doc didn't seem concerned enough to look into it. I also don't know what primary or secondary means in this instance. Not tryin to b smart ass just ignorant to some of tha terms
 
johnfromeurope said:
Why don't you use it then?
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Man it's pricks like u that post shit that is in no way helpful or constructive that have no business on here. And if it makes u feel better i take 600 mg a fuckin week not exactly a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose. Is why I put it on here instead of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum. By tha way thanks for your help and comments now fuck off
 
Hogans hero said:
Donno what HH is. Also don't know tha cause. I have no other issues so I'm not sure what's up. My doc didn't seem concerned enough to look into it. I also don't know what primary or secondary means in this instance. Not tryin to b smart ass just ignorant to some of tha terms
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HH is Hogans Hero :) - Let me give you a run down on HPTA so you understand the terminology.

HPTA stands for Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular Axis. A link between 3 glands/clusters that results in testosterone and sperm production.

Hypothalamic:
This refers to the Hypothalamus. This is a small cluster in the brain that links your central nervous system to the endocrine system. This is where it all begins. Hypothalamus sends a signal out to the Pituitary gland. This signal is called Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone (GnRH). Gonadotropins are your Luteinizing Hormone (LH) and Follicle Stimulating Hormones (FSH). These are explained in the next step.

Pituitary:
This refers to the Pituitary gland in your head, just under the brain, and releases LH, FSH, and more (because it received the signal from the hypothalamus). To stay on topic, we'll just discuss LH and FSH. LH is a hormone that is sent over to the testes for the purpose of stimulating Leydig Cells to produce testosterone. FSH is another hormone sent to the testes for the purpose of sperm production, which is accomplished by joining testosterone in the stimulation of Sertoli Cells. Both LH and FSH are required as they work in synergy for the betterment of production by the testes.

Testicular (also known as Gonadal; ie HPGA):
This refers to the testes. This is where your Leydig Cells and Sertoli Cells (mentioned above) reside. These are cells that produce testosterone and sperm when stimulated by LH and FSH (which arrived because the pituitary sent them). This event completes the chain reaction that started at the Hypothalamus, and now we have testosterone and sperm production.

Low T in men is referred to as Hypogonadism. You could be primary or secondary hypogonadal. Primary would indicate a problem with the testes. Secondary would be indicative of an issue in the brain, particularly the Hypothalamus and/or Pituitary.

It's important to find out what type of hypogonadism you have. You could be restarted and no longer require therapy for many years. Have you used antidepressants often in the past?
 
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