How to tell if it's gyno?

[xtinct]

Does gyno always cause tenderness? I have been on 1g of test for about 16 weeks now, and lately my nipples are almost always puffy, but I never feel any tenderness or discomfort. I also have some preexisting gyno (not gear related), so it's hard to tell what is happening. Is there any way I can tell for sure whether it's gyno or not?

 

[bigdelt69]

Have you checked for a lump under the nipple? I think you should be ok untill then. I would go ahead and start nolva anyway.

 

[xtinct]

This is going to sound stupid, but can you describe what a lump would feel like? It seems like there is some kind of extra tissue there, but like I said, I have some preexisting gyno and I can't really tell whether it has gotten bigger or not. I know that starting some nolva would be the save thing to do, but I plan to stay on this amount of test for some time, and I don't want to take nolva or any other anti-e unless I really need it.

As for the nolva, do you have a link to a good article about it? I would prefer nolva over an aromatase inhibitor because unlike femara and aromasin nolva has no negative impact on my sex drive, but I read that nolva suppresses IGF, so now I don't know what to take.

 

[bigdelt69]

Well bro I dont have any specific links but a short burst of nolva is not going to make much of a difference in your gains, esp if you are running a long cycle. As far as what it feels like, I guess its not really like a round lump but as you described, more like a small mass. Bro if you already had some pre-existing gyno then dont take a chance.

 

[neurotic]

For someone with pre-existing gyno (perhaps due to puberty I suppose) to run 16 week cycles with 1gr of test each week and just feel some puffyness is an exploit on its own. Taking into account that you aren't either on nolva or arimidex I find it almost impossible to believe that you didn't develop super-extra-hiper-gyno , to be honest.
Perhaps you are taking loads of flax everyday and its phytoestrogenic action is saving you..... who knows.

 

[panteracfh]

probly take nolva now before you get something that IS noticable... thats your best bet... probly won't notice difference in your gains...just out of curiousity, how have your gains progressed? like first 8 weeks compared to these last 8? is it continuous? have you changed the typ of test in the midde? thanks...

 

[xtinct]

It's hard to compare gains in WKS 1-8 with WKS 9-16 because I have been cutting for the last 8 weeks. FWIW, after 8 weeks of cutting, I am stronger than I have ever been before, but I think that is mostly due to the tren and Winstrol (winny) and not so much the test.

 

[Tinyt]

sorry to burst in to your post but it seems like my nipps are gettin little puffy now andi've been off gear for likealmost 2 months... anyone know what might be causeing this?i did all the PST as said. I was running test En. for 12 weeks @ 500mg and EQ for 14 weeks @ 600mg. did the liquidex and Nolva and clomid.should i start the nolva again?

 

[xtinct]

I find it almost impossible to believe that you didn't develop super-extra-hiper-gyno , to be honest.

Ha! Now that I think about it, my recent problems may have to do with the HCG I am on right now. Let's see. . . 1g test + HCG + preexisting gyno + no anti-e. . . I guess I agree with you -- I am surprised that it isn't a whole lot worse than it is.

 

[Hootie]

I know so many guys that panic when their nipples get a little puffy while on a cycle. IMO a lot has to do with a water retention and body fat which can cause a puffy appearance. I have had gyno, plenty. if you are not sure whether you have it get a professional opinion or otherwise just do this simple test. Grab about 1" to 1.5" of skin between your thumb and forefinger 2" to the right of your nipple. roll the skin around to feel what the texture is like underneath the skin (above the muscle) now do the same exercise 2" to the left of your nipple. Now you will know what fatty tissue and skin feels like. Do the same thing on your nipple. Does it feel any different? Is thare a hard mass underneath? anything from the size of a pea to the size of a marble? Is is painfull? If yes then welcome to the gyno club.

 

[neurotic]

Ha! Now that I think about it, my recent problems may have to do with the HCG I am on right now. Let's see. . . 1g test + HCG + preexisting gyno + no anti-e. . . I guess I agree with you -- I am surprised that it isn't a whole lot worse than it is.

When you first developed gyno in your life was during puberty?

 

[neurotic]

sorry to burst in to your post but it seems like my nipps are gettin little puffy now andi've been off gear for likealmost 2 months... anyone know what might be causeing this?i did all the PST as said. I was running test En. for 12 weeks @ 500mg and EQ for 14 weeks @ 600mg. did the liquidex and Nolva and clomid.should i start the nolva again?

It MIGHT be:

1) It's not gyno, it's you getting paranoid...
2) Are you currently taking prohormones and/or ZMA?
3) Do you smoke pot or take alcohol on a regular basis?
4) Perhaps your post-cycle didn't give you enough recovery and you still have a high estrogen/testosterone ratio.

 

[Tinyt]

you might be right about being petro... some days it doesnt show at all. I did liquid dex and nolvadex throughout the cycle. thanks for pointing those things out to me tho!