Hrt 101/loss in the maximus family

CHIP WADOWSKI

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I regret to inform you all that it looks as though we are about to experience a loss and minor setback regarding the explosive growth of the empire that has become MAXIMUS HRT. Back , some months ago, I received a phone call from an individual inquiring about Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) treatment. The gentleman was upfront with me in the fact that he was checking with another clinic, that I'm not sure is in business anymore, and any other potential source that could possibly enable him to use his insurance to pay for treatment. Typically, I really don't waste my time on cases like these, because when a client is truly serious about seeking legitimate therapy, from the best, they don't insult me by telling me that "it's between you and them". Nonetheless, I spent about two hours, cumulatively, on the phone and emailing this gentleman because I truly believe that all people deserve to be treated fairly. I gave him a thorough education on why Testosterone, HCG, and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) MUST be used in conjunction with one another in order to insure proper treatment and therapy. Periodically, the gentleman, and I do mean gentleman in the truest sense of the word, as he was always courteous, would piecemeal me his client file as I kept a running folder for him. Finally, after some months, this gentleman email's me to inform me that he's ready to begin therapy. But he gave me HIS terms. He stated that he would be ordering testosterone ONLY, because he doesn't FEEL that he needs to spend the money on HCG and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I TOLD HIM THAT HE WILL NOT BE ORDERING FROM MAXIMUS HRT. WE ARE NOT A SCRIPT MILL AND I DO NOT PUT IN "ORDERS" FOR ANYTHING. I develop THERAPEUTIC PROTOCOLS that will SYNERGISTICALLY optimize a hormonal balance that we are trying to achieve. I THEN OFFER THIS PROTOCOL UP TO OUR PHYSICIANS FOR REVIEW AND ONCE THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROTOCOL, THEY ISSUE THE PRESCRIPTION FOR THE PHARMACY TO DISPENSE THE MEDICATION. I was again told by this gentleman that he doesn't see why he should spend the money on and doesn't understand the necessity for the medications that will prevent his SACK from turning into a tiny pouch of skin with two PEBBLES inside and save him from growing another set of TITS! I'm very sorry, people, if the fact that I had spent hours in previous discussions explaining to this gentleman, in terms that a fifth grader could understand, as to why these medications are required, and then after trying out another company and multiple "DOCTORS", THEN COMING BACK TO ME, REALLY PISSES ME OFF..... ONLY TO BE INSULTED AND TOLD BY HIM.... "HOW IT WAS GOING TO BE DONE.... YET HE, HIMSELF, DIDN'T HAVE THE FIRST CLUE AS TO WHY "IT" HAD TO BE DONE THAT WAY!!

I then received an email from him telling me that "he is tired of waiting around". And that based on all the fantastic client reviews that he reads every day on STEROIDOLOGY, that I must be CHOOSING not to offer him the same service, out of frustration. I kindly told the gentleman that I have a docket full of "SERIOUS" clients that make ONE PHONE CALL, TO ME, AND WANT TO START UP IMMEDIATELY..... Because they want the BEST and the want it DONE RIGHT!

HRT 101....

MAXIMUS Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) IS NOT A SCRIPT MILL
AS A NEW CLIENT, YOU ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT CALL ME UP AND TELL ME YOU NEED A SCRIPT FOR TEST AND NOTHING ELSE. CALL SOMEONE ELSE! IF YOU WANT HRT/TRT TREATMENT AS IT IS INTENDED TO BE ADMINISTERED, CALL ME. IF YOU WANT STEROIDS TO ADD TO YOUR "CYCLE" TAKE A HIKE! AND DON'T GET PISSED AT ME FOR OFFERING YOU THE TREATMENT AND THERAPY IN THE FORM IN WHICH IT WAS INTENDED TO BE ADMINISTERED!

IF YOU ARE A CURRENT CLIENT AND STILL HAVE ANCILLARIES THAT ARE UNUSED FROM YOUR PREVIOUS COURSE OF THERAPY THAT WAS ADMINISTERED BY MAXIMUS HRT, AND YOU JUST NEED TO REFILL YOUR OTHER MEDICATIONS AT THAT TIME, FINE. NO PROBLEM AT ALL. BUT DO NOT, AND I REPEAT.... DO NOT WASTE MY TIME AFTER BEING FULLY EDUCATED AS TO WHAT TRUE THERAPY IS, ONLY TO INSULT ME AND ALL OF MY OTHER CLIENTS THAT ARE SERIOUS ABOUT LISTENING TO MY EXPERTISE AND ARE LINED UP WAITING TO BE PUT ON A LEGAL, LEGITIMATE HRT/TRT PROTOCOL!

IF YOU WANT YOUR COCK TO FUNCTION AGAIN PROPERLY, YOU WANT TO FUCK YOUR PARTNER AGAIN LIKE YOU ONCE DID, AND YOU WANT TO DO THIGNS THE RIGHT WAY.... THEY WILL BE DONE MY WAY. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE A VETERAN OR A NEWBIE. I DON'T CARE IF YOU KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT THIS SHIT AS I DO..... IF YOU ARE A NEW CLIENT AND IT IS YOUR FIRST REQUEST FOR A THERAPEUTIC PROTOCOL, AT A BARE MINIMUM, YOUR MINIMUM REQUIRED MEDICINAL THERAPY WILL CONSIST OF:

1.) TESTOSTERONE
2.) HCG
3.) ESTROGEN BLOCKER

NO IF'S. NO AND'S. NO :moon: ABOUT IT.

Now I truly hope that the fact that I'm looking out for all of your best interest is acceptable to anyone reading this. Believe me, the mark-up on HCG and and Aromatase inhibitor (AI), MAY yield me enough profit to buy that NEWSPAPER I've been saving up for!!! It sure as HELL isn't about the money!

Now, all my current clients.... your homework is to KNOCK THE FUCKING ROCKS out of your partner TONIGHT! :whipping: :cum: :bj: :doggy: :bikini: :wackit:

ALL HAIL MAXIMUS!!!!:bigok:

 
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Nice, what a dbag.

I agree 100% an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should always be on hand with Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) even if your a person who's blood work on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) shows you currently dont need it, because shit changes and you might need it and you'd better fucking hope you have it if you start to have high estro symtoms or blood work.

Who the fuck does not want balls and like cuming? Fuck that. HMB/HCG is a must IMO

Just picked up my script, Im looking forward to going from a total test of 172 to a nice mid healthy range of 600-800 and feeling "normal" again, no more having the wife initiate sex, I'll be doing that fucking shit. Thanks for the quick communication.

BTW I checked with 2 other Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) clinics and I picked Chip.

Drew...
 
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Oh crap, I hope you don't view me the same as this "gentleman". Two days away from my MRI.
 
This potential client could have saved everyone a lot of time if he just ordered from a UGL. If all he wants is test, that's easy enough to find. He should also make a note of the main AAS forum location so he can then post up pics of his UGL test and ask everyone if they know if it is good or not or if the source is legit (after he already bought it of course). These types of problems don't occur with HRT. Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is a group effort, with the final call on any order coming from the Dr., just as it should be. As Chip would say, this is proof that you can survive abortion.
 
Oh crap, I hope you don't view me the same as this "gentleman". Two days away from my MRI.

No, Bro.... I honestly don't even know the fella's screen name/user name. And I don't take most things personal. In fact, I'd still be more than willing to help this individual, as I do think his ideals are in the right place, but I think he is nervous that someone is trying to "push off" some things on him just to make an extra buck. What most people truly do not realize about this business is that it is literally impossible to "gouge" someone unless you claim yourself to be some type of "concierge" doctor, or you charge so exorbitant maintenance fee's like some of these outfits do. And I'm here to tell you this.... If you pay for anything more than what MAXIMUS Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) has to offer, you are getting your ass handed to you! I'll be the first one to openly say, "FDA APPROVED MED'S ARE FDA APPROVED MED'S"! It's the expert that is helping you change your life, that will make you or break you.
 
hey Mopar, make sure to let us know how things go and what sides (good and bad) you experience. as a guy not on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), I always find it interesting reading about people's experiences.
 
Chip it's awesome for you to separate those truely seeking hrt/trt to restore normally health hormone levels from those recreational users whose goals are very different and unfortunately in the US (and most of the world) are not legal.

Keep up the great work as us 40 somethings appreciate everything you do for us.
 
So I guess that is it, you are going out of business.
Always someone out their willing to put a good business out, just to get their fix of testosterone.
SHAME ON YOU FOR TRYING TO HELP THIS MAN WHO CAME TO YOU, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE!?
 
Yeah...the labs don't lie. He'll be back whining that his 250mg every 2 weeks isn't working.
 
Hey Chip,
Quick question. If a person on a budget was still getting hcg and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) but from other sources (research chems and such) do to cost restraints, would that be acceptable? I am not trying knock your methods or integrity in anyway. Just curious about the situation. Everyone has a right to make a buck, and in no way am I saying that you shouldn't as well.

As many great reviews as you have you must be doing something right.
 
--/\-- not addressed to me but if your going to obtain the non human/pharmacy grade HCG/AI illegally (not legal to buy for human use) because it's "cheaper" then why not the test also? UGL Nom human grade is cheap, of course at this point your not on DR scripted Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) your on a low dose aas cycle, call it what you want.

Personally I'm willing to pay for for the supervising Dr that will look over my blood work every 3-6 months, a script and a Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) specialist (Ie Chip). Also if I'm doing something potentially for life because it's medically needed I want it legal and pharmacy grade.
 
--/\-- not addressed to me but if your going to obtain the non human/pharmacy grade HCG/AI illegally (not legal to buy for human use) because it's "cheaper" then why not the test also? UGL Nom human grade is cheap, of course at this point your not on DR scripted Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) your on a low dose aas cycle, call it what you want.

Personally I'm willing to pay for for the supervising Dr that will look over my blood work every 3-6 months, a script and a Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) specialist (Ie Chip). Also if I'm doing something potentially for life because it's medically needed I want it legal and pharmacy grade.

Yup:)
 
not addressed to me but if your going to obtain the non human/pharmacy grade HCG/AI illegally (not legal to buy for human use) because it's "cheaper" then why not the test also? UGL Nom human grade is cheap, of course at this point your not on DR scripted Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) your on a low dose aas cycle, call it what you want.

My main concern is the schedule of the meds. I don't believe law enforcement views Testosterone and HCG in the same way. I'm probably wrong here, but I think you are saying that the difference between doing a cycle and doing testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is whether the HGC/AI are scripted. I am new and will be the first to admit most if not all here are more knowledgeable on most of this than I am, but it does seem a bit obtuse to say that a person who is under the supervision of someone such as Chip but gets ancillaries through other sources is acting irresponsibly and doing a cycle.
 
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Chip,
It looks like your response was taken down for some reason. I just wanted to say that what you said makes senses. Losing a license over improper protocols helps no one. I am glad to hear that you are open minded enough about it discuss it after a client has built a relationship with your company. Thanks for the info.
 
Yes, I did remove my response do to the fact that MLC AND MOPAR had pretty much hit the nail right on the head with their responses and there is simply no reason to proceed with any ambiguity, as the post I removed could have led some noobies down that road. We try to help everyone we can with every response we offer, but sometimes need to pull back on the reigns when it comes to people who have an agenda or are always looking for a "little more rope"....to try and hang you with..;-))
Not implying that you'd be one of those people, IGG55555...
 
My main concern is the schedule of the meds. I don't believe law enforcement views Testosterone and HCG in the same way. I'm probably wrong here, but I think you are saying that the difference between doing a cycle and doing testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is whether the HGC/AI are scripted. I am new and will be the first to admit most if not all here are more knowledgeable on most of this than I am, but it does seem a bit obtuse to say that a person who is under the supervision of someone such as Chip but gets ancillaries through other sources is acting irresponsibly and doing a cycle.

And to further assist you in clarifying your own thoughts, the whole point of a doctor doing things correctly is two-fold... One, because it's the course of THERAPY that will best suit the client and TWO, because this industry is and HAS BEEN under much scrutiny for a long time now. And if a doctor is NOT validating a script for testosterone by also writing scripts for the necessary ancillaries to ward off potential, KNOWN side effects, than it is blatantly irresponsible. So, I really dont care how many ancillaries you have laying around, from whatever XYX "source" unless they are scripted by our doctor along with your testosterone therapy, they are meaningless to myself AND my physicians. Does this give you a better understanding of a previously DELEATED response that may have come across to you as ambiguous...??????
 
And to further assist you in clarifying your own thoughts, the whole point of a doctor doing things correctly is two-fold... One, because it's the course of THERAPY that will best suit the client and TWO, because this industry is and HAS BEEN under much scrutiny for a long time now. And if a doctor is NOT validating a script for testosterone by also writing scripts for the necessary ancillaries to ward off potential, KNOWN side effects, than it is blatantly irresponsible. So, I really dont care how many ancillaries you have laying around, from whatever XYX "source" unless they are scripted by our doctor along with your testosterone therapy, they are meaningless to myself AND my physicians. Does this give you a better understanding of a previously DELEATED response that may have come across to you as ambiguous...??????

Sure does. My response was more to Mopar than to you. It just came across odd that 2 people could have the same exact protocol, one with scripted AI/HCG and one without, the one is considered testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) by a board member while the other is thought to be doing a cycle.

As far as you are concerned, your reasoning is sound and i definitely understand where you are coming from.
 
My point was the same as Chips but from the clients perspective. If I'm getting treated for cancer I'm going to do it with Dr scripted drugs and oversight not with non pharm grade resurch chems, or stuff smuggled though customs, same with HRT. Also I can't imagine *ANY* ligitimate Dr being "ok" with a patent obtaining some drugs related to an ongoing treatment from an outside "xyz" source without a prescription.. That was my point.

And honestly the perscription Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) stuff is really not all that much more really. If your going to do something because you feel and your Dr feels its medically needed do it legitimately and correctly.
 
I think a really great thread, started by YOURS TRULY:thefinger of course, is on the verge of heading straight to STUPIDVILLE over a complete NON ISSUE! The point of this thread is to let everyone know EXACTLY how things are going to be done, and BE DONE PROPERLY! I think I even made it the point in the first post to note that if a client DOES have any surplus of ancillary medications from their previous protocol WITH MAXIMUS HRT, that those may be applied to their next protocol, assuming they are not expired. Then the thread turns into, "WELL IF I HAVE GEAR LAYIN AROUND, CAN I ADD IT TO MY THERAPY...!?!?!?":wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:
Ok..... Since there is ALWAYS some fool out there with an agenda that thinks he's slick and wants to attempt to back me into a corner, I'll go one step further to say that I KNOW NOTHING, NOT A SINGLE THING, ZIP, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA... About any other type of medication or drug than what my doctors script for my clients. AND I WILL NEVER GIVE ADVICE TO ANYONE WHO IS NOT A CLIENT OR FURTHERMORE EVEN TO THOSE WHO ARE CLIENTS REQUESTING INFORMATION OR DOSING OF MEDICATIONS THAT I DO NOT SUPPLY, THAT ARE NOT PART OF THEIR STRUCTURED PROTOCOL, or THAT ARE SOME FICTICIOUS DIRRIVITIVE OF THE LEGITIMATE MEDICATIONS THAT ARE PART OF A STRUCYURED PROTOCOL. I'm sending this from an IPhone as I'm trying to get a :bj:, so I hope all my intended points were addressed. Now I need to add some dressing to the back of this little Phillys throat! She thinks I writing a letter to my sister... :dumbass:
 
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