HRT cycle for sex drive mostly

[rg12]

Need your help guys...

I have done a few cycles when I was bodybuilding back when I was about 21-23.

After I finished my last cycle's PCT I have done some blood test and testosterone levels were all back to normal.

Now my testosterone is pretty low I guess due to stress (life gets complicated sometimes when you reach 30)
and my sex drive is ZERO and I miss it alot since I could rape trees back in the day.

I am now working out about 3 times a week just to maintain some basic mass, looking lean and clean.

I was thinking of running 250mg/w of Testosterone Enanthate (one shot a week) for about 12 weeks and then
start PCT with Nolvadex only.

I was wondering a few things:
1. Is there any difference in natural testosterone production shutdown if I'm taking 250mg/w vs. 500mg/w?
2. Will Nolvadex only be enough for getting natural levels back up?
3. Is it necessary to have Arimidex on hand in case of gyno?
4. For a 250mg/w of Test E only cycle, How would I run the Nolvadex? (how much and for how long)
5. Will 250mg/w of Test E only make me rape trees again?

and I thought getting old starts at 50...

Would appreciate your help guys,
Thanks,
R.

 

[Megatron28]

So this is just a stop gap approach. Why not identify why yu have low T and treat it?

How low is your T? Can you please post your blood work results?

To your questions:

1) No difference. HPTA Shutdown is binary. On or off.

2) Maybe. But why chance it when Clomid and Nolva are better. hCG needs to be used during your cycle too.

3) Necessary to have an AI? Yes. In case of gyno? No. If you get gyno it is too late. You take an AI to prevent high estrogen which can cause gyno. Arimidex will not reduce gyno once you have it.

4). Nolvadex would be run during the PCT phase.

5) Maybe. Depends on what the root cause is of your Low libido. 250mg/week is essentially a TRT dose. It will just bring your TT levels slightly above normal.

My question to you is why bother shutting down you already suppressed HPTA to just run a TRT dose of Test? Where is the risk/reward benefit?

And before you consider running a cycle you really need to get at what the cause of your Low T and Libido issues are.

Are you having ED issues as well as low libido?

How is your diet? Can tell us your height, weight and body fat %?

 

[rg12]

So this is just a stop gap approach. Why not identify why yu have low T and treat it?

How low is your T? Can you please post your blood work results?

To your questions:

1) No difference. HPTA Shutdown is binary. On or off.

2) Maybe. But why chance it when Clomid and Nolva are better. hCG needs to be used during your cycle too.

3) Necessary to have an AI? Yes. In case of gyno? No. If you get gyno it is too late. You take an AI to prevent high estrogen which can cause gyno. Arimidex will not reduce gyno once you have it.

4). Nolvadex would be run during the PCT phase.

5) Maybe. Depends on what the root cause is of your Low libido. 250mg/week is essentially a TRT dose. It will just bring your TT levels slightly above normal.

My question to you is why bother shutting down you already suppressed HPTA to just run a TRT dose of Test? Where is the risk/reward benefit?

And before you consider running a cycle you really need to get at what the cause of your Low T and Libido issues are.

Are you having ED issues as well as low libido?

How is your diet? Can tell us your height, weight and body fat %?

I know why I have low T, it's because of tons of stress, anxiety and all that, it's a really crazy phase in my life
and having low libido makes everything suck even more.

It seems like there is no solution for it other than to solve the problems causing the stress, well I am working
on it but in a mean time I have zero sex drive and I thought of juicing for a while and hopefully my personal
life problems will be better or even solved by then.

If shotdown is binary then why people who come off very strong cycles do a much more complex PCT cycle?

Do I have to use HCG during the cycle? I haven't seen too many do that...
I have seen people use HCG in the PCT (in heavier cycles) to get natural production back faster...

What is the recommended PCT with Nolva and Clomid (dosage and duration) ? Starting 11 days after last shot with Test E right?

I wanna be on the safe side with gyno, How should I run the Arimidex?

No ED problems.

 

[Megatron28]

What is your TT at?

 

[rg12]

Don't remember the number, it was well below the normal range (there is a mark on a normal range chart and it wasn't in it).
When you manage big things with lots of money at stake, I guess your whole body goes to sh**
Was with a 22yo, she was horny as f*** and I'm like doing it almost without sex drive...that suck

 

[Megatron28]

I know why I have low T, it's because of tons of stress, anxiety and all that, it's a really crazy phase in my life
and having low libido makes everything suck even more.

It seems like there is no solution for it other than to solve the problems causing the stress, well I am working
on it but in a mean time I have zero sex drive and I thought of juicing for a while and hopefully my personal
life problems will be better or even solved by then.

If shotdown is binary then why people who come off very strong cycles do a much more complex PCT cycle?

Do I have to use HCG during the cycle? I haven't seen too many do that...
I have seen people use HCG in the PCT (in heavier cycles) to get natural production back faster...

What is the recommended PCT with Nolva and Clomid (dosage and duration) ? Starting 11 days after last shot with Test E right?

I wanna be on the safe side with gyno, How should I run the Arimidex?

No ED problems.

Stress and anxiety themselves will not directly lower testosterone levels. They can affect your sleep though and eating habits for example. These types of things can lower your teatosterone levels. Managing "big things" should not overly stress you unless you are not up to the task. Many people have demanding jobs and cope quite well. Exercising would help you. Eating well. Getting sufficient sleep. Basically living a healthy lifestyle.

Taking test for 12 weeks will not solve your root problems. You are just putting a bandaid on.


To your questions:

People who run longer cycles have to PCT longer sometimes. And certain compounds can make it harder to start your HPTA back up again. But all exogenous steroids will stop your pituitary from producing LH which results in your testicles not making their own testosterone. Even as little as 25-50mg of exogenous testosterone per week shuts down your LH.

You don't have to use hCG during your cycle. However it is recommended as it minimizes testicular atrophy during your cycle. This in turn helps you recover your Natty T faster during PCT.

You should never use hCG during PCT as it is suppressive to your HPTA. You are tryryying to get your HPTA turned back on again during PCT. Don't fight that.

PCT timing depends on how much Test E you are taking. If 500mg/wk one should wait about three weeks for it to clear and then start PCT. 250mg/wk would probably require about 10-14 days. Read the link below in my signature which takes you to a FAQs thread. It will cover PCT doses.

Arimidex should be run from Day 1 up until PCT starts. Dose depends on how much test you are running and your body fat %. I asked you that previously but you declined to respond. It would be helpful to know how much AI you used in previous cycles and where it put your estradiol at as well.

 

[rg12]

It is a bandaid for sure, But I'm aware of it and not really thinking it's going to solve anything.
I just need this "break" and things will hopefully be better after a few month.

About my stats I'm 1.78m about 80kg

I didn't use any AI in my previous cycles.
I know that many people do about 0.25mg EOD starting a few days after the first shot but
that's where my knowledge ends.

Why wait 3 weeks after the last shot in order to start PCT if Test E's life is about 11 days?

 

[Megatron28]

It is a bandaid for sure, But I'm aware of it and not really thinking it's going to solve anything.
I just need this "break" and things will hopefully be better after a few month.

About my stats I'm 1.78m about 80kg

I didn't use any AI in my previous cycles.
I know that many people do about 0.25mg EOD starting a few days after the first shot but
that's where my knowledge ends.

Why wait 3 weeks after the last shot in order to start PCT if Test E's life is about 11 days?

What is your body fat %?

You need to think in terms of Half Life. Test E's Half Life is said to be 10.5 days but some argue it may be closer to 5 days. Anyway, assuming 10 days, that means after 10 days have passed, half of the test is still in your system. So if you are at 250mg saturaturion levels, 125mg will still be there after 10 days. 62.5mg after 20 days. And so on. In reality it isn't a perfectly linear decay though. Does that make sense now for why one needs to wait more than 11 days?

.25mg of Adex EOD is a common dosage for people running 500mg of test/wk and around 15% body fat. Blood work is always required mid cycle to adjust the dosage for each individual.

 

[3J]

yea dont run a "trt" cycle.. that doesn't make sense.. if youre going to shut yourself down for a short time like 12 weeks make the best of it and run 500mg

but if your lack of libido is chronic i recommend you go see and endo and get on trt

 

[rg12]

Body fat hmm I'm guessing around 15%

What do I need to look at in my blood work when doing Arimidex? and how is Arimidex related to my body fat percentage?

I will go with the 500mg/w, have some fun with it

 

[Megatron28]

Body fat hmm I'm guessing around 15%

What do I need to look at in my blood work when doing Arimidex? and how is Arimidex related to my body fat percentage?

I will go with the 500mg/w, have some fun with it

Read the link provided below in my signature. It covers blood work and a whole lot more. It will help you start researching.

 

[rg12]

Thanks alot man!