I need advice.

cyto33

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heres the thing. i haven't seen any thing to indicate if my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is to low or if it's to high.

for the most part i'm rather calm and in good moods.

i have been one a cycle off and on for a year now and just recently stopped an have been running testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) @ 250mg per.

while on a full blown cycle i'm happy as a pig in shit.
now that i'm on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) i fucking hate the world, i'm bitchy and the mood swings are out of this world. i feel hate most of the times and just genarely not happy.
can this be explained. i can find no life reason for this most is well with some small exceptions but to feel this way i am leaning to the fact that 250mg isn't enough for a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for me.
 
I'm assuming this is self-prescribed testosterone replacement therapy (TRT)?

Eitehr way, I'm gonna say its psychological. You love being all jacked up on juice (who doesn't) and now you feel... well, just normal. I had the same thing happened when i stopped cycling years ago. I still miss the feeling but i am more concerned with health now.

What I'm confused about is your post.

You say
for the most part i'm rather calm and in good moods.

but then go on to say

I'm bitchy and the mood swings are out of this world. i feel hate most of the times and just genarely not happy.

how is that possible? lol
 
what i meant by that was, and i should have been more clear was when i'm on cycle i feel calm and in good moods.

and now i'm just the other way.

funny your the dude that i was hopin would grab this post.
being all in the head i cant find the balance. i dont want to increase this i want to relax for a while. rest. i was so tired and dragged out.
i have put myself on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) as my doc wouldn't do it. i had my test level checked and rechecked cause i do have a low natty test level.
so i'm just trying to find a balance right now.
 
Swale's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) advice)
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by swale (MD / Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) specailist)

I advise my AAS patients to use small amounts of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (250IU to 500IU) two days each week, right from the beginning of the cycle. This serves to maintain testicular form and function. It makes more sense to me to keep the horse in the barn, so to speak, then to have to chase it across three counties later on. I am also a big fan of maintaining estrogen within physiological ranges. Both therapies have been shown to hasten recovery.

Any more than 500IU of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) per day causes too much aromatase activity. Some feel aromatase is actually toxic to the Leydig cells of the testes. You are then inducing primary hypogonadism (which is permanent) while treating steroid-induced secondary (hypogonadotrophic) hypogonadism (which is temporary--hopefully).

If 250IU or 500IU on two days each week isn?t enough to stave off testicular atrophy, then I recommend using it more days each week (as opposed to taking larger doses). In fact, I wouldn?t mind having a guy use 250IU per day ALL THROUGH the cycle. Those that have tell me they thus avoid that edgy, burned-out feeling they usually get. They also say they simply feel better each day. Subjective reports, to be sure, but they are hard not to appreciate. Especially when Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is so inexpensive.

The testes are then ready, willing and able to again produce testosterone at the end of the cycle. LH levels rise fairly rapidly, but endogenous testosterone production is limited by lack of use. I also want to make sure a SERM, such as Clomid or Nolvadex, is at effective serum dosage (around 100mg QD for Clomid, 20-40mg QD for Nolvadex) when serum androgen levels drop to a concentration roughly equal to 200mg of testosterone per week. That is when androgenic inhibition at the HP no longer dominates over estrogenic antagonism with respect to inducing LH production. Of course, if the fellow has been doing Clomid or Nolvadex all along the way (and I now prefer Nolvadex over Clomid, due to the possibility of negative sides from the Clomid), he is all set to simply continue it at the end (no need to switch from one to the other). BTW, I see no evidence of any benefit in using BOTH SERM?s at the same time. I used to think a couple of weeks of the SERM was enough; now I like to see an entire month after the last shot of AAS (and migration of long to short esters as the cycle matures). Tapering the SERM is probably a good idea during the last week, as well.

I want my patients to stop taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) within a week after the end of the cycle. The testosterone production it induces will further inhibit recovery, as will using Androgel, or any other testosterone preparation, while in recovery. There is no escaping this, as there is no such thing as a ?bridge?. Just because you are not inhibiting the HPTA for the entire 24 hours does not mean you are not suppressing it at all. IOW, you can?t ?fool? the body?it is smarter than you are.

I like Arimidex during the cycle (in fact, consider use of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) while taking aromatisables a necessity) but it ABSOLUTELY should not be used post cycle (even though it has been shown to increase LH production) because the risk of driving estrogen too low, and therefore further damaging an already compromised Lipid Profile, is too great (this also drives libido back into the ground?and we don?t want that, do we?).

All this is meant to get my guys through recovery as fast as possible (the real goal, yes?). So far, all of them who have tried it have reported they are recovering faster than when they have tried other
 
i was at one point because i was going to come right off completly. but after feeling like complete hell i stayed on at 250mg and ceased Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use. i will read you Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) post.
 
I gotta agree with Centurion here. Other shit may be in play.

Now, when i went on HRT, i felt better, but nothing like i did before. Also got a little bit of gyno during the first year. Took some TC and it was gone within a month and I felt even better. And I always used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycles when I was competing, so i figured I'd try that.

Well, it helped alot, but again I think it was still mainly in my head. I slowly came off the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and started re-evaluating my priorities in training. I realized I was never gonna be all full of juice again. Thus never gonna be all jacked up again. But i am healthier, more athletic, still seen as plenty big to everyone else, and know what's important in life is not being the biggest dude around... especially since I was never that in the first place. I don't take the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) anymore and feel fantastic in and out of the gym. Balls may not be like melons as in the past, but they work fine and still cover the wife's naughty parts.

I would get your full panel done. You may need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for a while, maybe something else. But overall i think you need some time to prioritize brother.

Hope this helps.
 
sure will. its time for the blood work.
i will keep this posted as i find the results out. may take a few weeks to get this all done and relayed back here.
thanks guys.
 
sure will. its time for the blood work.
i will keep this posted as i find the results out. may take a few weeks to get this all done and relayed back here.
thanks guys.

Sorry i don't know enough to contribute on this topic Cyto, but I <3 you all the same.

Hmmm... if we keep this <3 stuff going we may attract the SanFran crowd.
 
Sex more than twice a week can wreak havoc on neurotransmitters and hormones and that is a problem that not all the testosterone in the world will solve. Dopamine-noradrenaline-adrenaline conversion goes very fast in the brain and this depletes even more neurotransmitters and produces more stress hormones leading to anger and then exhaustion over time. Then serotonin is depleted as is cortisol.
 
Yeah I said can. Some people might be able to do it - especially on testosterone, but I know I can't - and I'm 20.
 
sex for me is a must. if i miss it i get mean.
week nights at least 1x weekends it can be 2-3 times before noon even on the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose.
when juiced up i will have to bust one some times while driving.
 
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