I NEED advice

[boydson]

Hey guys,
So first off I'd like to say I really appreciate all the help I have received from this forum. You are all great guys. Now I have to 'fess up. I may have bluffed about my age in my original stats. I'm only 20.... I know it was stupid of me to go ahead and start a cycle at a young age. Flame away if you'd like, but I have realized my mistake and more then anything now I need someone to guide me. Ok, so this last saturday I started a Test E cycle at 500mg/wk. After doing plenty of research I decided to front load(I know some think this is a waste, I found very convincing research suggesting it is not and actually helps.) Anyways I did double doses so Saturday and then again on tuesday I used 500 mg adding to a total of 1000 mg for the week. Anyways its thursday now and my little guys are already shrinking.... Not sure if this is supposed to happen so fast or not, but either way its scaring the shit out of me. Should I continue? Or should I back out? If I stop how do I stop?(Do I use my pct)

Moral of the story- I learned this stuff is no joke. I feel like an idiot for starting early but yes I felt invincible. I'm in your guys hands now. I need some vets and anyone who has done TONS of research to chime.

Boydson

P.S. I have Nolva, Clomid, and liquidex on hand.

 

[tjkita]

HCg

Are you running any HCG? Sounds like you need some. How much did you frontload? Nolva and clomid are serms for post cycle therapy (pct) not during your cycle. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will get your boys back to normal. Do u have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand for bloating?

 

[OmegaReign]

If you can't handle the boys shrinking don't juice. Don't freak out though it happens. You've already started and have stopped your natty test production. Just finish off your cycle. Get some hcg. Run it at 500-1000iu a week then the day after your last pin of test run it at 500iu Ed for 10 days then run post cycle therapy (pct) 4 days later. Stupid to start so young but the damage is done. Get blood work after post cycle therapy (pct) to make sure you are back to normal. Then do not do anymore gear till your older. Hopefully your natty test will be back at normal.

 

[OX]

testicular atrophy is normal from using aas. Im not gonna tell you to keep going or to stop but I will give you some advice.

If you keep going:
drop your dosage down to just 500 a week (250 mon/thurs)....get some hcg. This will help your testicles get back to normal size....and most importantly pct!

If you stop:
start your clomid and nolva in 10-14 days

 

[boydson]

The only thing I'm really worried about is curbing my natural test production in the future. I don't wanna be reliant on medical test. So is it to late either way? Or would my nuts have a greater chance being ruined if I continue more then if I stop?

 

[boydson]

Are you running any HCG? Sounds like you need some. How much did you frontload? Nolva and clomid are serms for post cycle therapy (pct) not during your cycle. HCG will get your boys back to normal. Do u have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand for bloating?

All the info you asked for is in the original post.

 

[OX]

The only thing I'm really worried about is curbing my natural test production in the future. I don't wanna be reliant on medical test. So is it to late either way? Or would my nuts have a greater chance being ruined if I continue more then if I stop?

well obviously if you continue you risk more damage but there is no definite answer on what will happen to you because everyones body reacts differently.

P.S. There is nothing wrong with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT)

 

[jadakiss]

I wish u the best. You need to keep it real and tell the truth alot of guys or hopefully all the guys here want the best for u but u need to understand that the vets here know what the hell they talkin about. They have been there and done that. U need to follow the advice the people gave u on this thread . I would tell u finish and get the bloodbwork done. Hopefully u think better and understand that ur too young shit I'm 30 and I havnt done my first YET lol . Keep safe

 

[Kolossus]

Hey guys,
So first off I'd like to say I really appreciate all the help I have received from this forum. You are all great guys. Now I have to 'fess up. I may have bluffed about my age in my original stats. I'm only 20.... I know it was stupid of me to go ahead and start a cycle at a young age. Flame away if you'd like, but I have realized my mistake and more then anything now I need someone to guide me. Ok, so this last saturday I started a Test E cycle at 500mg/wk. After doing plenty of research I decided to front load(I know some think this is a waste, I found very convincing research suggesting it is not and actually helps.) Anyways I did double doses so Saturday and then again on tuesday I used 500 mg adding to a total of 1000 mg for the week. Anyways its thursday now and my little guys are already shrinking.... Not sure if this is supposed to happen so fast or not, but either way its scaring the shit out of me. Should I continue? Or should I back out? If I stop how do I stop?(Do I use my pct)

Moral of the story- I learned this stuff is no joke. I feel like an idiot for starting early but yes I felt invincible. I'm in your guys hands now. I need some vets and anyone who has done TONS of research to chime.

Boydson

P.S. I have Nolva, Clomid, and liquidex on hand.

What exactly is your question? Should you stop or continue the cycle? Shit dude... only you can answer that, but it sounds like AAS isn't for you.

With 3 shots of test you don't need to post cycle therapy (pct), but since you have the gear on hand it wouldn't hurt. Nolva 20 ED for 3 weeks, Adex .25 E2-3Days as necessary... no need for clomid, but if you insist 50mg/ed.

 

[noobmuscle]

I like your humility boydson. People who are humble like us seem to learn allot on here. What ever you decide to do, I wish you the best.

 

[ErectusMaximus]

If you can't handle the boys shrinking don't juice. Don't freak out though it happens. You've already started and have stopped your natty test production. Just finish off your cycle. Get some hcg. Run it at 500-1000iu a week then the day after your last pin of test run it at 500iu Ed for 10 days then run pct 4 days later. Stupid to start so young but the damage is done. Get blood work after pct to make sure you are back to normal. Then do not do anymore gear till your older. Hopefully your natty test will be back at normal.

^^^^ this tells you everything you need to know. Don't worry about your balls. Worry about you natural test levels returning to normal after you finish post cycle therapy (pct).

WITH a good pct there is a good likelyhood thaqt your levels will be good in a few months. There is also a pretty good chance they will not cause your so young.

Take pct seriously and get some HCG and you will be okay.

 

[mdella89]

What exactly is your question? Should you stop or continue the cycle? Shit dude... only you can answer that, but it sounds like AAS isn't for you.

With 3 shots of test you don't need to post cycle therapy (pct), but since you have the gear on hand it wouldn't hurt. Nolva 20 ED for 3 weeks, Adex .25 E2-3Days as necessary... no need for clomid, but if you insist 50mg/ed.

You dont need to post cycle therapy (pct)? did i hear that right. um yes you fuckin do. clearly his test has stopped already. dont give advice you know nothing about. Kid, if you stop do a full pct after 14 days from your last pin.
nolva 40 40 20 20. clomid 50 50 50 50
thats your dosing protocol for 4 weeks

 

[Kolossus]

You dont need to post cycle therapy (pct)? did i hear that right. um yes you fuckin do. clearly his test has stopped already. dont give advice you know nothing about. Kid, if you stop do a full pct after 14 days from your last pin.
nolva 40 40 20 20. clomid 50 50 50 50
thats your dosing protocol for 4 weeks

"kid", they didn't even pct back in the day. Three shots of test e isn't going to require post cycle therapy (pct). re-establishing htpa doesn't require serms or ai... it is a natural reaction. the only reason you are spouting nolva 40-40-20-20 and clomid 50-50-50-50 is because you read that somewhere. i assume you don't understand what each chemical is actually doing. I give advice to the op because i know aas and post cycle therapy (pct).

xoxo

 

[mdella89]

"kid", they didn't even post cycle therapy (pct) back in the day. Three shots of test e isn't going to require post cycle therapy (pct). re-establishing htpa doesn't require serms or ai... it is a natural reaction. the only reason you are spouting nolva 40-40-20-20 and clomid 50-50-50-50 is because you read that somewhere. i assume you don't understand what each chemical is actually doing. I give advice to the op because i know aas and post cycle therapy (pct).

xoxo

I realise they didnt do it back in the day. So thats an excuse to not do it now? thats like saying there was no seatbelts in cars in the 60's so i wont wear one now.... retarded. 3 shots has show its shut him down, so why not do the right thing by urself and make a full recovery, a natural recovery depending on the person could possibly take a very long time. You can go do your no post cycle therapy (pct) shit but dont bring others with you

 

[Kolossus]

I realise they didnt do it back in the day. So thats an excuse to not do it now? thats like saying there was no seatbelts in cars in the 60's so i wont wear one now.... retarded. 3 shots has show its shut him down, so why not do the right thing by urself and make a full recovery, a natural recovery depending on the person could possibly take a very long time. You can go do your no post cycle therapy (pct) shit but dont bring others with you

Like I said, if you read... if you have the nolva on hand why not use it... but it is not necessary. Do you understand what post cycle therapy (pct) is? HPTA is not established because of Nolva, or HCG or clomid or toremifen... it happens naturally. 3 shots of test e has not shut him down in 1 week, I feel pretty good about that. he is probably freaking out about his nuts shrinking as when I would check my nuts sack 10x a day on my first cycle and was sure my nipples were showing gyno for sure.

Now, if the op had run a 2-3 weeks or more, I would obviously suggest strongly to do a full post cycle therapy (pct).

 

[darkside06]

If you can't handle the boys shrinking don't juice. Don't freak out though it happens. You've already started and have stopped your natty test production. Just finish off your cycle. Get some hcg. Run it at 500-1000iu a week then the day after your last pin of test run it at 500iu Ed for 10 days then run post cycle therapy (pct) 4 days later. Stupid to start so young but the damage is done. Get blood work after post cycle therapy (pct) to make sure you are back to normal. Then do not do anymore gear till your older. Hopefully your natty test will be back at normal.

testicular atrophy is normal from using aas. Im not gonna tell you to keep going or to stop but I will give you some advice.

If you keep going:
drop your dosage down to just 500 a week (250 mon/thurs)....get some hcg. This will help your testicles get back to normal size....and most importantly post cycle therapy (pct)!

If you stop:
start your clomid and nolva in 10-14 days

^^These two....best advice!

 

[Phatbastard]

LOL like your going to listen any way?

 

[darkside06]

lol like your going to listen any way?

lmao

 

[Chase]

AND..watch for gyno issues. My first 'cycle' was Dbol ONLY like a moron and I think I was taking methyl 1 Test or some other Pro hormone. I took dbol, drank, M1 and probably a bunch of other colorful pills on the weekend and ran that dumbass cycle for like 2 months straight! Ended up with a slightly lower test level for a few years and gyno in my left nipple. Still puffy to this day.
I would just question why you think it's that important for you to juice. Honestly, if its that important to do it I would consult a physician and let him know you are planning on a cycle. I guarantee he will be able to talk you out of it

 

[hamidgs]

If you can't handle the boys shrinking don't juice. Don't freak out though it happens. You've already started and have stopped your natty test production. Just finish off your cycle. Get some hcg. Run it at 500-1000iu a week then the day after your last pin of test run it at 500iu Ed for 10 days then run post cycle therapy (pct) 4 days later. Stupid to start so young but the damage is done. Get blood work after post cycle therapy (pct) to make sure you are back to normal. Then do not do anymore gear till your older. Hopefully your natty test will be back at normal.

I am agree with omegaReign , you shouln't do it, too young, but now nothing to worry.
jut do your cycle and do your post cycle therapy (pct) .