I think I've made a big mistake, need guidance urgently! Oxy test cycle.

[til5007car]

Ok so I've been going to the gym religiously with a mostly clean bulking diet for the past 16 months. So the guy who got me started in the gym was on steroids and alas he offered me some. So without thinking I got me some Oxys and tamoxifen (his recommendation) for a first cycle. I've been on it for about 4 weeks, and this past week I started test e 750 a week.

I came to a realisation after pinning myself that this is getting serious. So I did some research and learnt I am to young (almost22) and have not been lifting long enough. I want to ask also, has the damage already been done to my hormones / growth plates? Sorry if I sound clueless... But I am clueless and panicking at the moment.

So now I ask how can I fix this problem, I want off the gear but don't want to mess myself up in the process. I have clomid, was told to take this a week after I end my cycle for 4 weeks. Can I start this ASAP? Before all the hate, I know I'm silly, Nieve w/e ...but I realise now that I should never have started so soon! Any guidance greatly appreciated.

 

[3J]

well you are young, that's a fact...

how many injections have you done?

 

[til5007car]

I've done 2 pins of 1ml each, 350mg each.

 

[3J]

and its just test e???

if so wait 16 days and take 50mg clomid ed for 4 weeks to come off

 

[3J]

and with this being your first cycle who told u to run 750mg??

slap that idiot for me when you see him

 

[til5007car]

Well he's a personal trainer and a successful one at that. He competes etc.. He actually told me not to read forums because it will mess with my head.... So I dunno, he has a good reputation.

So I'll stop the Oxys test and tamoxifen as of now and in 16 days start the clomid. After that ill be back to normal size hormone levels etc?

 

[3J]

no you will not be at the levels you were when you started.. it will likely be lower for a few months.. you dont fully recover after the pct..

and he told you not to come here and listen cuz he wanted to make a buyer out of you... 750mg test for the first run is retarded.. you got caught in a trap

 

[til5007car]

What would have likely happend if I had have kept taking it at that dosage? I'm kinda gobsmacked he would give out such bad advice.. That one week of test is enough to mess up my levels for months? I mean I haven't noticed any of the side affects from the Oxys or test, just size and str from the 4 weeks of Oxys

 

[71Avido]

He actually told me not to read forums because it will mess with my head....

"Hey man, yea you. C'mere"
"You wana get huge? Here, take this, don't ask questions and don't say a word to anyone."

 

[3J]

What would have likely happend if I had have kept taking it at that dosage? I'm kinda gobsmacked he would give out such bad advice.. That one week of test is enough to mess up my levels for months? I mean I haven't noticed any of the side affects from the Oxys or test, just size and str from the 4 weeks of Oxys

you have shut down your natty test production... not horribly, but still have affected it.. with proper pct you should be fine though..

as for growth plates im not a scientist.. i dont think one week of high test levels will affect you that much.. thankfully at 22 your just about done growing.. i stopped at 23

 

[til5007car]

Alright, we'll ill leave the gear alone for a few years now I think I'm going to lose most of my size I gained of the Oxys right? I read with anadrol it's a lot of water retention that makes ya look bigger.

 

[3J]

that would be highly based on how your diet was while on the cycle and how it will be after cycle..

 

[til5007car]

My diet was and still is clean with 2 cheats a week. Consuming at least 3.7k kcals which is my bulking amount. Would I need to eat more coming of the cycle or...? Sorry for so many questions, just want to get things clear in my mind.

 

[3J]

i would bump to 4k

 

[til5007car]

Ok will do that and see how it goes. Thanks for the help... Just lucky I decided to research a bit before continuing the cycle.

 

[3J]

well done

 

[notdorianyates]

Ok will do that and see how it goes. Thanks for the help... Just lucky I decided to research a bit before continuing the cycle.

Good luck with it all man, good diet, great exercise = superb gains. Don't look back for a few years at least.

Great advice from 3j.

 

[Optimal]

Well he's a personal trainer and a successful one at that. He competes etc.. He actually told me not to read forums because it will mess with my head.... So I dunno, he has a good reputation.

Anyone who tells you to avoiding learning for yourself is trying to mess with your gains

FUCK THAT GUY!!

99% of "successful" personal trainers are one of two people
1. A compulsive liar
2. An ignorant dipshit

The fact of the matter is "this shit ain't that complicated." Eat, sleep, lift, progress, learn. Sure it might take time to separate the good stuff from the BS...
but I find it ludicrous that people are willing to spend hundreds of hours in the gym, doing useless shit day in and day out, yet somehow a couple hrs/wk of research is "too much."

If PT's told you the real truth, they would be out of a job.
It is always in the PT's best interest to treat you like a mushroom: keep you in the dark and feed you bullshit. Never trust someone with a monetary incentive to hold you back.

 

[3J]

well said

Anyone who tells you to avoiding learning for yourself is trying to mess with your gains

FUCK THAT GUY!!

99% of "successful" personal trainers are one of two people
1. A compulsive liar
2. An ignorant dipshit

The fact of the matter is "this shit ain't that complicated." Eat, sleep, lift, progress, learn. Sure it might take time to separate the good stuff from the BS...
but I find it ludicrous that people are willing to spend hundreds of hours in the gym, doing useless shit day in and day out, yet somehow a couple hrs/wk of research is "too much."

If PT's told you the real truth, they would be out of a job.
It is always in the PT's best interest to treat you like a mushroom: keep you in the dark and feed you bullshit. Never trust someone with a monetary incentive to hold you back.

 

[Atomsk]

get clmoid, hcg, abnd nolvadex. one thing that people wont tell you is: a) people always talk about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), but they never talk about younger people becoming infertile. if you want kids, wait until you have kids, then start AAS