I will start a Test-E & T-Bol cylce as my first cycle, could you help?

[ironsun]

Hi I would like to start my very first cycle with Test-E & T-Bol.

Firstly, my profile
174cm / 83kg / BF 15% / Bench 135kg, Deadlift 220kg, Squat 200kg (Total 555kg).

My body weight got stuck almost two years now. Though I could gain more with more food, it's really hard and goes back to the normal weight soon.

I focus on powerlifting.

I've done some research and decided to go for Test-E and T-bol, instead of D-bol in order to have less water retention.

My first cycle will be

-Week 1 to 10: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
-Week 1 to 6: T-bol @ 60mg every day (420mg/week total)
-Week 1 to 12: HCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total) (Till a few days before PCT)
-Week 1 to 12: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

PCT followed
-Week 12 to 16: Clomid @ 75/50/50/50
-Week 12 to 16: Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20

I made this as a table schedule

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What do you guys think? Can you give me any tips/advice/whatever I should think of?

I will keep posting my progress once I start, I like recording anyways.


Dumb (?) Questions.
1. Arimidex is a little tablet with 1 mg. So I break the little into 4 pieces to take?
2. One ample (bottle) is big (HCG 1x2000iu) according to the website, so I keep the bottle and put a needle and take 250iu everytime?
3. I do not need HCG? Cos I take T-bol instead of D-bol?

Thanks in advance xxx

 

[Megatron28]

How old are you?

Your first cycle needs some changes. Some things are off. But let's get your age first.

 

[ironsun]

Hi Thank you for ur concern
I am 27 years old so I think I am okay to start a cycle?
I added a question
I do not need HCG? Cos I take T-bol instead of D-bol?
Thanks

 

[Megatron28]

OK. Thanks.

First cycle should be test only. Drop the Tbol. You want to learn how your body responds to the test. You should be able to get huge gains from just the test. You can add another compound your next cycle.

I would run the cycle for 12 weeks instead of 10.

Start PCT three weeks after your last injection. It takes longer than 2 weeks to clear your system. Extend hCG and AI as a result.

As for the Arimidex tablets, just get a pill splitter and quarter them.

Yes, take hCG. It minimizes testicular atrophy while on cycle. This helps you later during PCT to recover faster.

You didn't discuss blood work. You need to get pre, mid and poat cycle blood work. We my signature be!ow for what labs and where to get them. This is your one chance to get pre-cycle blood work and establish your healthy Natty baseline. Don't miss out on that opportunity. Post the results up her when you get them.

Looks like you did your homework. Nice job. Good luck with your cycle abs make sure you keep us posted.

Oh and taking 1000mg of NAC while on cycle is good for your liver.

 

[ironsun]

Hi Sir,

Thank you for your reply.
I have some questions about your reply but before that I have another question.
I contacted a reliable connection and I explained that I do not really care about looking but a bit more of strength to break my "limit" now
He recommended me Winstrol tablets for 6 weeks, followed by 2 weeks Clomid after-cycle for the first step to see.
I am not sure how toxic Winstrol is but it sounds like more a safe option to begin?

Kind regards,

 

[Megatron28]

Hi Sir,

Thank you for your reply.
I have some questions about your reply but before that I have another question.
I contacted a reliable connection and I explained that I do not really care about looking but a bit more of strength to break my "limit" now
He recommended me Winstrol tablets for 6 weeks, followed by 2 weeks Clomid after-cycle for the first step to see.
I am not sure how toxic Winstrol is but it sounds like more a safe option to begin?

Kind regards,

So he is recommending that you run just winstrol by itself? You are male, correct?

Males cannot runs cycle with testosterone included there. Winstrol would shut down your Natural Testosterone but you wouldn't be putting any exogenous testosterone back in you. 6 weeks is a long time to go without any testosterone on you.

Plus guys typically use Winny right before a bodybuilding show to help them get a "hard" look. It can take its toll on your joints as a result.

I would not recommend doing this.

Have you read the Steroid Profiles that can be found at the top of your screen?

 

[ironsun]

Thank you for another reply.

Yes I am male. I've read some about Profiles that I am interested in, but not all
I kept googling and reading about stuff of course
I've read a lot about bad things of Winstrol, I would not want to try..haha
Anyways, I'm not a professional or something. I am not even in competitions.
So I would like go for a safer way. Sorry for being pussy like every newbie does.

I think you are more knowledgeable than the connection when I see the way of talking lol
Is there any different way that you would recommend for beginners?
He also mentioned only Anavar (oxandrolone) which could be quite safe & easy?
Yes I read only oral "sucks" but still for a newbie like me only Anavar seems more safe & easy in a way.
I would go for the Test-E 500mg a week cycle in the end though

Kind regards

 

[Megatron28]

Thank you for another reply.

Yes I am male. I've read some about Profiles that I am interested in, but not all
I kept googling and reading about stuff of course
I've read a lot about bad things of Winstrol, I would not want to try..haha
Anyways, I'm not a professional or something. I am not even in competitions.
So I would like go for a safer way. Sorry for being pussy like every newbie does.

I think you are more knowledgeable than the connection when I see the way of talking lol
Is there any different way that you would recommend for beginners?
He also mentioned only Anavar (oxandrolone) which could be quite safe & easy?
Yes I read only oral "sucks" but still for a newbie like me only Anavar seems more safe & easy in a way.
I would go for the Test-E 500mg a week cycle in the end though

Kind regards

Men cannot run oral-only cycles. Injectable Testosterone must be included in your cycle. There is no getting around this. Anavar shuts down your natural testosterone production too.

 

[ironsun]

Okay so then again I better go for the only TEST-E cycle?

-Week 1 to 10: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
-Week 1 to 12: HCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total) (Till a few days before PCT)
-Week 1 to 12: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)
PCT followed
-Week 12 to 16: Clomid @ 75/50/50/50
-Week 12 to 16: Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20

I cannot apply for the blood test from your lab cos I am not in the available area for your service.
I think this is a disappointment for you. I am sorry for that.
I do think I should take out blood tests though

 

[Buzzbait]

Listen to mega brother. Your "reliable connection" is probably more interested in moving gear then your best interest. Test only first cycle. Then if you choose future cycles and add other compounds, Test will be in EVERY cycle. It's your foundation. Remember that. You will see great gains with Test for 12-14 weeks. Good luck

 

[ironsun]

So Only Test Injection is still a better and safe way? Thank you for your advice

 

[Megatron28]

Okay so then again I better go for the only TEST-E cycle?

-Week 1 to 10: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
-Week 1 to 12: HCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total) (Till a few days before PCT)
-Week 1 to 12: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)
PCT followed
-Week 12 to 16: Clomid @ 75/50/50/50
-Week 12 to 16: Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20

I cannot apply for the blood test from your lab cos I am not in the available area for your service.
I think this is a disappointment for you. I am sorry for that.
I do think I should take out blood tests though

See post #4.

As for blood work, it doesn't matter where you get it done. What is important is doing it and making sure you run the correct labs. Do you know what to run and when?

 

[ironsun]

Yes I checked what you said about the stack and everything.
According to your advice
This is the upgraded stack for a beginner

-Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
-Week 1 to 15: HCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total) (Till a few days before PCT)
-Week 1 to 15: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every two days (From day 2 up until PCT starts)
PCT followed
-Week 15 to 18: Clomid @ 75/50/50/50
-Week 15 to 18: Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20

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How should I take N-acetyl Cysteine? So it's a tablet, so I take one (1000mg) like every morning from day 1 till the end of PCT?
As an example like this?
iherb.com/Now-Foods-NAC-1000-mg-120-Tablets/59157

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About the blood work, no I actually do not know there is not enough information about the blood work when people are on steroids
Could you also explain about that part? I really appreciate your help



Thanks again for your help

 

[Megatron28]

Yes I checked what you said about the stack and everything.
According to your advice
This is the upgraded stack for a beginner

-Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
-Week 1 to 15: HCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total) (Till a few days before PCT)
-Week 1 to 15: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every two days (From day 2 up until PCT starts)
PCT followed
-Week 15 to 18: Clomid @ 75/50/50/50
-Week 15 to 18: Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20

----------------
How should I take N-acetyl Cysteine? So it's a tablet, so I take one (1000mg) like every morning from day 1 till the end of PCT?
As an example like this?
iherb.com/Now-Foods-NAC-1000-mg-120-Tablets/59157

----------------
About the blood work, no I actually do not know there is not enough information about the blood work when people are on steroids
Could you also explain about that part? I really appreciate your help



Thanks again for your help

That looks good now!

NAC is taken orally. It usually comes in pill form. Every morning is fine and all the way through PCT would be good.

For blood work you want to check:

Complete Blood Count (CBC) -- make sure Hematocrit is included
Complete Metbolic Pane (including AST, ALT, Creatinine, eGFR, and fasting Glucose)
Total Testosterone
Estradiol
Lipid Panel would be good to check (LDL, HDL, Triglycerides, Total)
LH
FSH
Prolactin is nice if you are going to ever try using Deca or Tren.
TSH is good to know too, especially if you are ever considering using T3.

 

[ironsun]

Hi Mega,

Thank you for your reply. I am going to study about the blood test.
I may order this month or next January since it's the end of a year.
I would begin my cycle in January then. I may get back to you since I am a newbie.
I really appreciate your help! Thank you thank you

Kind regards,