If you were to do your first cycle again of test enth only, what dosage would you use

[SteelSouth]

OK let me give one reason why I think you should do 500mg a week for a first cycle.



Say you do your first cycle of 300mg/week and it's great. You want to do test/deca for cycle two. Most guys want to keep the test higher than the deca, so you opt for 500/400. Suddenly in this cycle you are getting gyno. Now, you have no idea if the gyno is coming from A) the test, because you've never run test this high before, or B) the deca

Sure you could run 300/200 for a test/deca cycle...but how much is 200mg of deca going to do for you?

Most guys use 500mg test as a basis in their future cycles, so imo you should use 500mg in the first one to know how you react to that dose.

I agree with your theory, String. But if 300mg/wk worked for your first cycle, why not just bump it up to Test only at 500mg/wk for a second cycle to see how you react. If there are no gyno symptoms at 500mg/wk and Deca is added to the third cycle, then you will know it's the Deca and not the Test if gyno ocours. Just a thought.

 

[putin]

Curses... Foiled again.... seriously though...300mg a week is over 3 times the amount of testosterone your body makes naturally...why not start at a low dose for the first round to see how you react??

I float on 100mg of enanthate per week, am I making gains? no, but I am keeping them with little effort. My natural test was low anyhow. When running a cycle I usually keep my test injects less than 500mg/week.

 

[latinking24]

my first cycle i had reall good gains off 250mg test E for 8 weeks...but gains like that on that low dose are a dream nowadays..

 

[NOTRE DAME]

500mg/ew

my first was test 500mg/ew,deca 400mg/ew for 10weeks.

 

[performance_issues]

i'd say 1cc test e 250mg Every 6th Day... that worked well for me and still does infact

 

[Rokomuscle1]

OK let me give one reason why I think you should do 500mg a week for a first cycle.

Say you do your first cycle of 300mg/week and it's great. You want to do test/deca for cycle two. Most guys want to keep the test higher than the deca, so you opt for 500/400. Suddenly in this cycle you are getting gyno. Now, you have no idea if the gyno is coming from A) the test, because you've never run test this high before, or B) the deca

Sure you could run 300/200 for a test/deca cycle...but how much is 200mg of deca going to do for you?

Most guys use 500mg test as a basis in their future cycles, so imo you should use 500mg in the first one to know how you react to that dose.

Ok..for second cycle I would not recommend the Test/Deca stack..I would probably recommed another 300mg a week cycle...why go higher if you are making gains?? You have to remember where I come from with Steroids.. I believe that the least amount should always be used...especially by the majority of the users here on the board... we are not professional bodybuilders or athletes...so the risks we take should be minimized.. remember though.. this is just my opinion...

For a third cycle I would say do 500mg a week of test... maybe a fourth would be 500mg of test and 25-30mg of dbol a day for 4 weeks.. but I am a firm believer that the gains you make are not based soley on how much you take...but on how much you and how well you eat and train...

 

[John Benz]

thefantom1, I thoroughly enjoyed your thoughts and agree with your reasoning 100%. In my opinion, most people don't train right eat right and are absolutely not ready for gear anyway, and could grow almost as much by eating more and training harder.