jarbulldog
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Is the IGF-1 that would get from one of the research sites the same as the IGF-1 that you would get from a souce and if this is breaking the rules then delete.
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jarbulldog
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like IGF-LR3 the same as the IGF-EC from a reasearch site?
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jarbulldog
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anyone?
jarbulldog
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I am wondering the same thing what is the difference because I thinking about running some
Where as HGH convets to IGF-1 when it passes through the liver, IGF-1 converts to MGF when that passes through the liver. MGF is supposed to be the thing that make the new muscle fibres. I've read this somewhere when i was doing research on IGF. It also said that they all(HGH, IGF-1, MGF) all suppress the myostatin gene which is supposed to result in endless crazy gains in new lean muscle. It also said that there is a drug course being made that will make the mystatin gene inactive for good. I think its going to be used for people who have muscular atrophy and other illnesses likewise.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
Deepglute
30 YEARS AAS EXPERIENCE
dsco said:
The following taken from :http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11915923&dopt=Abstract
"Effects of activity on growth factor expression.
Goldspink G, Yang SY.
Department of Anatomy and Developmental Biology, Royal Free and University College Medical School, University of London, UK.
For some time, it has been appreciated that muscle mass is regulated locally as well as systemically. We have cloned the cDNA of two isoforms of IGF-1, which are derived from the IGF-1 gene by alternate splicing. The expression of one of these was only detectable after mechanical stimulation. For this reason, this has been called mechano growth factor (MGF). The MGF is not glycosylated, is smaller, and has a shorter half-life in the unbound state than the systemic liver type IGF-1. As the result of a reading frame shift the MGF peptide also has a different C terminal sequence and thus has different binding protein/receptor affinities. Another splice variant (muscle L.IGF-I) is expressed in muscle during rest but is also upregulated by exercise. The latter is similar to the systemic liver type IGF-1. The evidence suggests that MGF has a high potency for inducing local protein synthesis and preventing apoptosis and therefore has an important role in local tissue repair and remodeling. Our physiological experiments show that stretch and particularly stretch combined with electrical stimulation, rather than stimulation alone are important in inducing MGF expression. The mechanotransduction mechanism is believed to involve the muscle cytoskeleton. During aging, the production of growth hormone and IGF-1 by the liver declines markedly. The discovery of MGF and muscle IGF-1 provides a link between physical activity and gene expression. This underlines the need for the elderly to remain active as the locally produced growth factors supplement the circulating IGF-1 levels."
The one main difference is that IGF-1 works systemicly, (in the recent past there have been erroneous comments on boards that IGF-1 causes localized growth at the injection site). MGF on the other hand DOES cause localized growth when injected into a particular muscle immediately after you've trained it.
jarbulldog
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but the question I am trying to get answered is the IGF-LR3 (that you would get from a source) the same as the IGF-EC(that u would get from lets say researchology)
Deepglute
30 YEARS AAS EXPERIENCE
If your source knows what the hell he is offering, he will know the difference between IGF-LR3 and IGF-IEc (MGF). If you order IGF-LR3, the vial will have it printed clearly on the label. If you order IGF-IEc (MGF), the vial will have MGF printed on the label. If your source tells you they are the same thing, he is wrong, and you better deal with someone else who knows what he's selling.jarbulldog said:
jarbulldog
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bro thanks for your reply but my question is what is the difference between igf-1 lr3 and igf-iec. Yes my source has igf-1 lr3 written on it. but which one works better?Deepglute said:
Deepglute
30 YEARS AAS EXPERIENCE
If you're loking to bring up weak body parts, I would go with MGF. If so, you must remember to inject the MGF into the muscle you have just trained. IGF-LR3 will attach to all IGF receptor sites throughout the entire body. The greatest number of IGF receptor sites are in the intestinal tract which is the reason that the pros who use high doses of HGH and IGF have the large distended guts.jarbulldog said:
jarbulldog
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so correct me if i am wrong, if you use igf-1 lr3 you do sub injections in the stomach or would it better to it somewhere else? and also what would a good dose be? should it be broken up into morning and evening shots?
Deepglute
30 YEARS AAS EXPERIENCE
Here is the best post I have ever read regarding IGF1-LR3. It's a long read, but well worth it if your intent on trying IGF1-LR3:jarbulldog said:
http://www.outlawmuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29401
jarbulldog
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thanks bro
jarbulldog
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ok bro I read that suggested post and was wondering if this would be a good approach
I was thinking about doing 30mcg of IGF-1LR3 2 days on and one off. I was also going to the post work out injection. my question is know do you use a slim pin? and if so does it matter where you shoot into the muscle?
I was thinking about doing 30mcg of IGF-1LR3 2 days on and one off. I was also going to the post work out injection. my question is know do you use a slim pin? and if so does it matter where you shoot into the muscle?
