Impact of steroids during physical rehab.

FuBro

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Hi guys.
I am writing this post on the off chance someone has gone through something similar or has insight.
About two months back I had a flat foot surgery on my left foot. I am currently in a moon boot and if all goes to plan will have it off by the end of August. Physical therapy of the foot is to start sometime in the next few weeks.

My question or concern is what impact running a test and tren cycle would have on my foot during its rehab process. I will only be gyming upper body in this time with the only lower body work being what the physical therapist gives to me. I plan to start the cycle in the first week of November, a good two and bit months into the rehab.

I know it seems like there’s an obvious answer to this, it goes without saying that AAS will help strengthen the atrophied muscles, but my concern is more specifically what impact an accelerated rehab process due to AAS might have on healed bones, tendons, ligaments, etc.

Thanks guys

Extra info:
Haven’t been told much about the rehab but I’m guessing there will be a lot of ankle and arch strengthening exercises. Body weight exercises and theraband work, if any, to bring back atrophied leg muscles.
Aim of the cycle is to lower BF% first and add muscle second. Not going to be a strong cycle, something in the region of 300mg test e and 400-500mg tren e p/w for 14 weeks.
 
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Aim of the cycle is to lower BF% first and add muscle second. Not going to be a strong cycle, something in the region of 300mg test e and 400-500mg tren e p/w for 14 weeks.

You're essentially admitting that you know what we know; you should hold off on cycling until you're healed. You don't need AAS to cut, and reading the words "not strong" and "tren" in the same sentence is just silly.

Heal up, get back into the swing of things, fix your diet, THEN you should hit the hormones. Don't let them be a crutch, use them as the tool they're intended to be. ;)

My .02c :)
 
You're essentially admitting that you know what we know; you should hold off on cycling until you're healed. You don't need AAS to cut, and reading the words "not strong" and "tren" in the same sentence is just silly.

Heal up, get back into the swing of things, fix your diet, THEN you should hit the hormones. Don't let them be a crutch, use them as the tool they're intended to be. ;)

My .02c :)
Yeah silly of me to put those two in the same sentence. What I mean is not going to be strong in terms of how high doses you can normally go with those two compounds. I am currently cutting and my diet is on point. Would like to do the cycle for the obvious advantage of fat loss and muscle gains. I should have mentioned that I will be having my right foot operated on next year June, so that's why I'm lapping this with my rehab instead of waiting until the end of the year when I'm rehabbed. I could wait till the end of next year to cycle again, but I'm being impatient and eager to go if I don't see any serious reason not to.

But this is besides the point, I have no problem with biting my lip and putting off the cycle, but what I would really like to know is the possible implications if any. At the end of the day I've considered this at great length and will most likely do this after more consideration unless someone can provide a negative. Believe me, if someone even makes a senseful speculation I will drop the idea. If I can get shredded in the mean time and afford it, why not.

Appreciate your input, obviously your suggestion is 100% playing is safe.
 
Well, I've had two surgeries while on cycle, and while I did end them by going back to TRT, it was mostly because I felt that it was a waste of money as I couldn't train properly to take advantage of the hormones. If you can at least train at a good intensity, and are able to still train legs (maybe leg press + the usual machines?) decently, that becomes a matter of goals vs cost.

The only real risk is having a higher blood pressure and connective tissue deterioration from the AAS. I do NOT recommend tren if you're being monitored with blood work as it does do a number on lipids/bp/kidneys/liver values. I had a hell of a time explaining things away when I had my gall bladder taken out while on tren, and had a "miraculous" recovery as the tren use ceased with my bloods. That, and anti-inflammatory drugs are harsh on the liver, which doesn't mix so well with tren.

Take from that what you will. :)
 
age
what type of surgery

aas--do not heal strengthen lig s or tendon s rather w the rapid increase in strength do the opposite. Tren while on injured reserve w t h s wrong w you ?

U are somewhat immobilized so seeking a cut from a bottle is silly, savvy ? Cut s are made in the kitchen.

Most surgeon s own the rehab center so they can double tap ur insurance. Like casino s owning gambling rehab or pain doc s owning drug rehab centers. Only in Amerika.

I cut my acl/lcl total knee rebuild rehab by 40 percent and my back fusion by 50.

U can and should wait unless the GE light bulb look is what thee seeks. It s all the rage down here in the swamp w knee length shorts and all.

Not hating just wondering what s the rush ?
As u get older u realize rushing in is usually fool hardy and rarely are best LAID plans goal s achieved.
Patience scores the finest cuts of veal cutlet in my admittedly limited experience.

wanna make god laugh ?
tell him ur plans...
 
Tren.... definitely not!

Test.... possibly, depending on how much you actually can still train whilst rehabbing.

I know when I detached my triceps tendon last year - I ran Test at a reasonably high dose whilst rehabbing and it helped me maintain pretty much all of my muscle whilst training at a fraction of my normal intensity levels and poundages.

I will add that I'm on TRT also, so the decision wasn't as tough as yours.
 
connective tissue deterioration from the AAS.

Do you have any articles to back this up? My understanding is that there is the indirect effect of the connective tissue not developing at the accelerated rate the muscle does, thus muscles can take on the heavier loads without the equal support of the connective tissue, opening you up to fascia tears, tendon damage, etc.
Also, no anti-inflams and monitoring of blood work.

age
what type of surgery

aas--do not heal strengthen lig s or tendon s rather w the rapid increase in strength do the opposite. Tren while on injured reserve w t h s wrong w you ?

U are somewhat immobilized so seeking a cut from a bottle is silly, savvy ? Cut s are made in the kitchen.

Most surgeon s own the rehab center so they can double tap ur insurance. Like casino s owning gambling rehab or pain doc s owning drug rehab centers. Only in Amerika.

I cut my acl/lcl total knee rebuild rehab by 40 percent and my back fusion by 50.

U can and should wait unless the GE light bulb look is what thee seeks. It s all the rage down here in the swamp w knee length shorts and all.

Not hating just wondering what s the rush ?
As u get older u realize rushing in is usually fool hardy and rarely are best LAID plans goal s achieved.
Patience scores the finest cuts of veal cutlet in my admittedly limited experience.

wanna make god laugh ?
tell him ur plans...

24 years old. It was a osteotomy, along with achilles tendon lengthening, and a tweaking or two of foot ligaments. My diet is very on point. But as with shedding bf, the lower you get the harder it is naturally, or at least this is my experience.

aas--do not heal strengthen lig s or tendon s rather w the rapid increase in strength do the opposite.
I should have stated that I know this. It***8217;s not like my foot and leg will get jacked while doing simple rehab exercises, which is why I deem this safe in my view.

Tren.... definitely not!

Test.... possibly, depending on how much you actually can still train whilst rehabbing.

I know when I detached my triceps tendon last year - I ran Test at a reasonably high dose whilst rehabbing and it helped me maintain pretty much all of my muscle whilst training at a fraction of my normal intensity levels and poundages.

I will add that I'm on TRT also, so the decision wasn't as tough as yours.

At the very least I am considering a test only cycle while eating clean just below maintenance, as I already have two vials of test lying around.


Look guys, I have considered everything you've brought up.
I've never been able to train legs hard because of my flat feet and the knee and back pain that comes with training them. By the end of next year I should be able to train them properly. Last year I did a test/tren cycle and barely ever trained legs. My goal is not to add huge masses. I train a lot of callisthenics, so adding functional mass that my body can still work with is my goal. I know most of you will say that I shouldn't touch AAS for this, but from my cycle last year I was able to perform the human flag, hold a front lever, and become a monster at dips, all while putting on some nice lean mass.

As I've said before I have no problem waiting this out but unless someone can provide something solid against it I don't see why not. I guess I pretty much know what I need to and that is muscles will get stronger and tendons won***8217;t keep up so I've addressed that by only aiming to stick to rehab for my lower half while training upper body at a good intensity. Obviously getting your upper half bigger while your lower half is staying the same is not ideal, but it doesn't bother me.
I already have test on hand so at the very least a test only cycle. If I do end up doing tren I will stick to equal dosing of test to tren, both low. So say 300mg test/tren. (I realised I made a mistake after looking back at my cycle plan. I had always planned and budgeted for 300mg test/tren pw)
 
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