ahh ok, i read it now, I swear, I think Don from Fina Farm is behind this, and to think, i actually thought he was a cool guy. I mentioned to him over the phone about a syno kit, and he started saying how Chem's kits were gonna give everyone gyno, that no matter what you do it still has estrodial, blah blah. Hmmm, im very gyno prone, used Chem's kit, and no nolva, and no gyno whatsoever. I know he has always had a problem with Chem, but this is complete BS.