Intermeddiate cycle: Winny + Deca

[kael9876]

Hi. i would like to my second cycle. here are my stats
I'm 20 years old
6'2"
weight: 160 punds
been training for 4 years
bf 6%

my 1st cycle was deca, 200mg/wk for 4 weeks.
and i didnt take any post cycle therapy (pct), and i gained 8 pounds.
so i don't react badly to deca.

this time im planning on doing an eight week cycle:
300mg/wk deca, 8 weeks
200mg/wk winstrol, 8 weeks
PCT: week 11 with clomid 300mg, next day 200,next 100
and 100 for the rest of the days.

i have a few questions though:
-can i inject wintrol twice a week, or is it every day?
-are the dosages correct for me?
-for how long should i take Clomid?
-what will my gains be after the cycle (if i eat lots, train lots, and sleep lots) btw i dont care about water retention.

thanks in advance, KAEL

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I'll move this over to the main Anabolic forum for you.........

 

[kael9876]

anyone?

 

[rippednick]

"my 1st cycle was deca, 200mg/wk for 4 weeks.
and i didnt take any post cycle therapy (pct), and i gained 8 pounds"

More than likely those 8 pounds were from eating. Iv never heard of Deca kicking in in less than 5 weeks and a dose of 200mg probably wouldnt have even been felt over a 15 week period. That is just Way to low of a dose with way to short of a time.
1. You can inject winstrol twice a week but i doubt you will see any benefit from it. Optimal dosage is 50mg a day but possible to slide by with 50 every other day.
2. Your Deca is to low by about 100mg a week to have noticable results. And i would recommend deca be ran for atleast 10 weeks. Honestly i wouldnt recommend your cycle to anyone, not very cost effective. You need a test only cycle very badly just run 500mg a week of test for 10 weeks and then you will know what a real first cycle feels like.
3. Im not a post cycle therapy (pct) pro so ill let someone else answer that.
4. With those dosages you wont gain much, but how much you gain depends on how much you eat.

And dont worry about water retention with that cycle because unless your very sensitive you wont have any. I really recommend you do 500mg wk test and so will everyone else on this board.

 

[jarbulldog]

hey bro keep the deca at 300mg a week for 1-8
add 500mg test week 1-9
do Winstrol (winny) 50mg ed 5-10 and you should be good to go

 

[jarbulldog]

just me on this one you should really add test because deca will kill your libito

 

[Slayer]

hey bro keep the deca at 300mg a week for 1-8
add 500mg test week 1-9
do Winstrol (winny) 50mg ed 5-10 and you should be good to go

Definately the way to go.


But if you don't have, can't get, don't want test,,,,,I did a cycle of Winstrol (winny) and deca about a year ago. Deca 300mg ew,,,,,winny 50mg eod (injections). I was happy with my gains. And despite not doing any pct,,,,I kept most of my gains.

But this is not a recomended cycle. I did it before I had educated myself about steroids and would not repeat it.

Consider the test.

 

[rippednick]

I still think you just need to go with a single test at 500 a week. It will blow that deca Winstrol (winny) cycle out of the water.

 

[rippednick]

oh yeah and it will cost about a third as much as the Winstrol (winny) deca cycle