I usually take a bit more adex then most, when I have to... as I'm prone to bloating and puffy nips, but I don't find I need any more than .25 EOD on that amount of test. I've never used Tren, but I've heard it has it's own brand of 'side's, which is why I'll be using Masteron in my upcoming cycle instead. Do some research on 'high prolactin' to see if that is you're issue. If so, then yup.. the Caber will help you out.