Is it just me?

[bleachcola]

I swear the whole thing about having to change your routine often in order to stimulate new growth is bullshit. I've been doing the same basic routines for years now and still continue to make progress. I actually find that when I change up my routine, progress slows down dramatically. When I stick with certain exercises, my muscles become used to the action and I can continually make improvements. When I change to a new exercise, the weight I can use goes down considerably and it takes me time to get back to where I was with the other angle. I prefer to stick to the same exercises and just continue to add more weight. I see progress when I get stronger and press more weight. When I change exercises, I lose that progress. Any thoughts?

 

[hmlacrosse]

i geuss the only exuse, everybody is different, every body is different. how long do you do the same split for, years, months? haha i mean, stick with it if ur happy with ur gains, i'm always changing, and sometimes i end up regretting it.

 

[MrMondo]

I only change excercises when I stagnate and stop progressing.

I have been doing the same routine (basically) for years.

So I would have to agree.

 

[BigRonWannabee]

You dont need to change your routine to stimulate growth, you need to make consistant progress in whatever it is you do. Most guys platue on a particular routine - including myself. But hey, if it aint broke dont fix it.

 

[pullinbig]

I swear the whole thing about having to change your routine often in order to stimulate new growth is bullshit. I've been doing the same basic routines for years now and still continue to make progress. I actually find that when I change up my routine, progress slows down dramatically. When I stick with certain exercises, my muscles become used to the action and I can continually make improvements. When I change to a new exercise, the weight I can use goes down considerably and it takes me time to get back to where I was with the other angle. I prefer to stick to the same exercises and just continue to add more weight. I see progress when I get stronger and press more weight. When I change exercises, I lose that progress. Any thoughts?

what kinda #s you putting up?

suttle changes like order of lifts, # of reps or sets can do wonders for stagnant lifters. completely changing a routine is not always necesarry.

 

[bleachcola]

what kinda #s you putting up?

suttle changes like order of lifts, # of reps or sets can do wonders for stagnant lifters. completely changing a routine is not always necesarry.

On cycle now so numbers are looking half way decent (for me atleast).

Bench
135 x 20
255 x 12
275 x 10
295 x 8
315 x 6

Squats
* Don't really go all out, legs respond quickly to heavier weight and make it impossible to fit into the jeans I like, gay, I know, but that's how it is. But usually looks about like:

135 x 20
225 x 10
315 x 4
315 x 4

BB Rows
* Same as benching, I try to keep that number equal, wierd tick I have. Seems to work well for me. I have very nice traps and delts, so I'm told, and I don't even work either directly. I guess the secondary work they do on this is enough to keep them where they are at.

 

[blackbeard]

theres no need to Completely change a routine every time youre n the gym

but its really a matter of time before you stagnate a little-its natural..

aside from cycling you can only add so much weight to the bar each week-otherwise you would be benching 700

I generally cycle my assistance work every 3-5 weeks..but the moves that i use are very similar

as far as maxing yu cannot hit a max set of reps each week and then add more weight to the bar the following week..that will only last for 1-5 weeks then you will hit a wall..drug use not counting here cause obviously if you are off cycle and then hop on cycle yeah your numbers are hopefully going to go up each week

 

[Behemoth]

I think changing to a whole new set of exercises is stupid, because you are going to have to learn neural coordination, etc with those exercises first before it will do much for your muscles. What is the point? I prefer to just use the same basic set of exercises and just change reps, sets or whatever.

 

[blackbeard]

I think changing to a whole new set of exercises is stupid, because you are going to have to learn neural coordination, etc with those exercises first before it will do much for your muscles. What is the point? I prefer to just use the same basic set of exercises and just change reps, sets or whatever.

you touched on a good point
training your motor units that are weak (doing an exercise that is hard for you) is something that will benefit your lifts that you are strong in...

the basic principle in westside (i dunno if they came up with it or not)
Train your weaknesses

 

[bleachcola]

theres no need to Completely change a routine every time youre n the gym

but its really a matter of time before you stagnate a little-its natural..

aside from cycling you can only add so much weight to the bar each week-otherwise you would be benching 700

I generally cycle my assistance work every 3-5 weeks..but the moves that i use are very similar

as far as maxing yu cannot hit a max set of reps each week and then add more weight to the bar the following week..that will only last for 1-5 weeks then you will hit a wall..drug use not counting here cause obviously if you are off cycle and then hop on cycle yeah your numbers are hopefully going to go up each week

Yeah, definitely can't add a few pounds every week. I tend to get comfortable with a certain scheme, then add ten pounds to each set. At first I won't be able to hit the same level of reps I usually do 12-10-8-6, but eventually I work my way up to doing that. After I've done that weight for awhile and get comfortable, then I move it up again. Now I've gotten to the point where adding more weight takes atleast a couple months. But still slowly making progress.

 

[pullinbig]

On cycle now so numbers are looking half way decent (for me atleast).

Bench
135 x 20
255 x 12
275 x 10
295 x 8
315 x 6

Squats
* Don't really go all out, legs respond quickly to heavier weight and make it impossible to fit into the jeans I like, gay, I know, but that's how it is. But usually looks about like:

135 x 20
225 x 10
315 x 4
315 x 4

BB Rows
* Same as benching, I try to keep that number equal, wierd tick I have. Seems to work well for me. I have very nice traps and delts, so I'm told, and I don't even work either directly. I guess the secondary work they do on this is enough to keep them where they are at.

yup thats the gayest excuse i ever heard for not squatting heavy. dude you been training for years and making progress the whole time? you must have been benching/squatting like 50lbs when you started.

i can assure you that i didnt start hittin bigger #s doing the same ol routine week in week out, year in and year out. anyone can benefit from variation in routines and doing differnt movements. bkack beard is 100% correct in saying that training weak areas makes for bigger numbers across the board.

 

[TPH76]

i'm always changing, and sometimes i end up regretting it.

Yup...and the good thing about change is that you can do it more than once if that happens

Personally I like to mix things up too...not only do I feel my exercise more when I do, but I also don't like to get bored doing the same thing again and again.

Perhaps its true that mixing thigs hampers growthspeed or perhaps it is not....I don't particularly care. Right now I am growing...and thats all that matters to me. I am in no rush....yet.

 

[TPH76]

yup thats the gayest excuse i ever heard for not squatting heavy. dude you been training for years and making progress the whole time? you must have been benching/squatting like 50lbs when you started.

Well...in the last six months I did have to buy two sets of new pants..that puts a serious dent in your wallet... My girlfriend is actualy pissed because I spent more money on clothes than she does.

 

[bleachcola]

yup thats the gayest excuse i ever heard for not squatting heavy. dude you been training for years and making progress the whole time? you must have been benching/squatting like 50lbs when you started.

i can assure you that i didnt start hittin bigger #s doing the same ol routine week in week out, year in and year out. anyone can benefit from variation in routines and doing differnt movements. bkack beard is 100% correct in saying that training weak areas makes for bigger numbers across the board.

Haha, I'm immune to hearing that now. My legs really aren't bad. I keep them pretty proportional to my upper body compared to most people you see in the gym. I'm just not true body builder proportioned in that area. I just can't see myself wearing sweatpants and otomix pants. So I intentionally hold back on trying to make progress. I just use a routine that keeps them where they are at now.

 

[pullinbig]

gay wad sho nuff. you scared to go heavy sounds like to me.

buy relaxed fit jeans silly. or bigger ones. lose the kalvin kleins.

roflmao. lets see a pic of these wheels you got.

 

[GatorFB21]

I never do the same exercise two weeks in a row. That way I'm training the muscle in different ways so it doesn't get "used" to the movement. This is the way I was trained and it worked for me, so I don't see a reason to stop if it's working.

 

[HowardRearden]

Ahh well...at least that excuse is a refreshing one, compared to the usual "I can't squat big because it hurts my knees" or something along those lines.

And on a gayer note, I had to buy stretchy undies cause my cotton boxers kept splittin' during squats.;-) Better than goin' comando I guess.

 

[blackbeard]

gay wad sho nuff. you scared to go heavy sounds like to me.

buy relaxed fit jeans silly. or bigger ones. lose the kalvin kleins.

roflmao. lets see a pic of these wheels you got.

i had dreams of wearing a pair of hugo Boss jeans
then i realized i need at least a size or two bigger just to fit my ass in lol
plus Hugo dont mae sizes that big

 

[bleachcola]

Ahh well...at least that excuse is a refreshing one, compared to the usual "I can't squat big because it hurts my knees" or something along those lines.

And on a gayer note, I had to buy stretchy undies cause my cotton boxers kept splittin' during squats.;-) Better than goin' comando I guess.

Same here. I guess my legs can't be that bad since I have to cut slits in the sides so they don't crawl up my leg. I'm going back to tighty whiteys, just not white colored.

 

[bleachcola]

gay wad sho nuff. you scared to go heavy sounds like to me.

buy relaxed fit jeans silly. or bigger ones. lose the kalvin kleins.

roflmao. lets see a pic of these wheels you got.

Calm down dad. I'll be putting up new pics within a week.