Is the key just not mixing carbs and fats?

buff36

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I have read high carb/low fat diets, high fat/low carb diets, and cyclical diets that mix high carb days/low fat days with high fat/low carb days. I have even seen a "1/2 timed carb diet," which calls for high fat/no carb in the morning and then no fat/high carb at night (or vice versa if you train in the morning). Putting all these together, it seems like the golden rule is don't mix fat and carbs at the same meal. And, of course, always have protein at every meal, whether a carb or fat meal. Could it be that simple?
 
Suareezay said:
no.

the carb/fat separation rule is based on a outdated understanding of human physiology.

i completely agree with this statement. Its one of the most outdated and over rated statements on the net.
 
It's not just on the internet, it's in countless bodybuilding and fitness magazines and books, too, and many people claim to have great success with one variation on this theme.

So are you saying that macronutrient profiles/ratios don't matter?
 
buff36 said:
It's not just on the internet, it's in countless bodybuilding and fitness magazines and books, too, and many people claim to have great success with one variation on this theme.

So are you saying that macronutrient profiles/ratios don't matter?
BBing and fitness magazines are a joke. They are supplement catalogs, and volume/pump training manuals. The same can go for books, theres very little useful, accurate information - you really have to search for the good ones.

Id recommend checking out www.bodyrecomposition.com one of the best forums out there. Funny too.

Macronutrient ratios do matter, some people experience different things from for example, carbs, due to varied levels of insulin sensitivity/resistance and secrection. Generally people that do well with high carb/low fat diets do poorly with low carb/high fat diets and vise versa. Generally, what works best is setting your protein intake, then meeting your caloric intake goals by some combination of fat and carbs, the combination not making much of a difference - what matters most is calorie level. Theres also some stuff that makes things more complicated, like a higher carb intake lowering your protein requirements, but for the most part, its just a matter of calories.

But this is a difference issue than carb/fat separation.
 
Bottom line the key is a significant caloric defecit with sufficient protein to maintain muscle mass.
 
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