is this gear real?

[Tee jay]

What form of testosterone

Sorry changed my post cause i am not sure i am allowed to post pictures of the products i got from europe.
So....Instead.....
What form of testosterone do you recomend for a newbie's first cycle?I am not afraid of needles,so freqency of injections is a non-issue.I am just looking for the leanest gains possible with minimal water retention.

 

[fleverglades]

dude - I did test enanthate and it was perfect - took 500mg/week in one shot every Sunday. Gained 25 pounds in 6 weeks.

 

[tailhold]

Try test prop at 100mg every other day and run it for 10 to 12 weeks.

 

[AKA]

another gd cycle for leaning out i found was 400mg of test prop eod (not weekends) and stanzanol tabs 6 ed

keep a gd diet and train hard and i had great lean gains i swear by that cycle for leaining out but its personal preferance (different horses for different courses lol)
good luck bro
AKA

 

[tims1]

test enanthate ibruan 250mg is great cheap first test to cycle. i started with 500mg a week of sustanon and second cycle used 500mg test e with 300mg deca and saw much better cleaner gains

 

[AKA]

test enanthate ibruan 250mg is great cheap first test to cycle. i started with 500mg a week of sustanon and second cycle used 500mg test e with 300mg deca and saw much better cleaner gains

he stated that he wanted lean gains thats why i listed that cycle the cycle your running i would run for bulking but thats just me.
AKA

 

[Scarz]

Sorry changed my post cause i am not sure i am allowed to post pictures of the products i got from europe.
So....Instead.....
What form of testosterone do you recomend for a newbie's first cycle?I am not afraid of needles,so freqency of injections is a non-issue.I am just looking for the leanest gains possible with minimal water retention.

any test at 500gm/week. if it gives you water retention/bloat, then take aromasin 12.5mg everyday. problem solved.

if u dont want to take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with test, then take test prop, but be ready for a pain in the ass the next day or two. needs to be injected atleast every other day if not everyday.

lean gains or bulk. u can get either from test. ure diet will dictate lean gains or bulk gains. increase the cardio, drop the carbs, high protein, and moderate calories a day and ure good to go.

 

[Scarz]

he stated that he wanted lean gains thats why i listed that cycle the cycle your running i would run for bulking but thats just me.
AKA

bro ive literally seen guys make clean lean gains with Dbol.

ITS ALL ABOUT YOUR DIET

 

[AKA]

bro ive literally seen guys make clean lean fains with Dbol.

ITS ALL ABOUT YOUR DIET

Ive seen it myself im the same but thats mostly genetics and great strict diet but theoreticaly it should be done the other way with a cutting and bulking cycles im not insulting your opinion or anything coz u prob got more years in gym than me, I also get lean gains from a bulking cycle i dnt really need to do a cutting cycle but i guess i cn thank my genetics in tha sense but when i give advise i personaly give it from the book im not banking on peoples genetics.
AKA

 

[Ythrashin]

Ive seen it myself im the same but thats mostly genetics and great strict diet but theoreticaly it should be done the other way with a cutting and bulking cycles im not insulting your opinion or anything coz u prob got more years in gym than me, I also get lean gains from a bulking cycle i dnt really need to do a cutting cycle but i guess i cn thank my genetics in tha sense but when i give advise i personaly give it from the book im not banking on peoples genetics.
AKA

Scarz knows hit shit buddy...

You are running 2grams of test per week and weigh 176lbs. You are on your 3rd cycle....How is that "from the book". I wouldn't take advice from you if my life depended on it...

You should be a monster by now.

 

[AKA]

Scarz knows hit shit buddy...

You are running 2grams of test per week and weigh 176lbs. You are on your 3rd cycle....How is that "from the book". I wouldn't take advice from you if my life depended on it...

You should be a monster by now.

not that its got anything to do with you but if you read my post proparly i said i werent disrespecting scar as thats not what im about i said he prob got alot more experience than me and what i also said is when giving advice i go by the book not on my personal preferneces your just out for an argument mate and i wont rise to your negativity you fucking prick just leave it at that. I apreciate all advice and have the upmost respect for genuin people who take time out of there lives to help someone so know what a persons about and read before you jump to conclusions about people mate.
AKA

 

[AKA]

and whi;le where on the subject im only 1 week into my cycle of 2 grams a week so it aint kicked in yet as test cyp takes longer than a week to kick in if you didnt know, your just argumentative and i aint got time for ignorent pigs lkike you

 

[o3clipsegts]

bro ive literally seen guys make clean lean gains with Dbol.

ITS ALL ABOUT YOUR DIET

Agreed

 

[Scarz]

Scarz knows hit shit buddy...

You are running 2grams of test per week and weigh 176lbs. You are on your 3rd cycle....How is that "from the book". I wouldn't take advice from you if my life depended on it...

You should be a monster by now.

^x2

not that its got anything to do with you but if you read my post proparly i said i werent disrespecting scar as thats not what im about i said he prob got alot more experience than me and what i also said is when giving advice i go by the book not on my personal preferneces your just out for an argument mate and i wont rise to your negativity you fucking prick just leave it at that. I apreciate all advice and have the upmost respect for genuin people who take time out of there lives to help someone so know what a persons about and read before you jump to conclusions about people mate.
AKA

bro he's right. the book is most likely written by a shmuck who never did a cycle in his life. real life experiences out weigh book worms by a million. hence the reason for "experiments on people".

and whi;le where on the subject im only 1 week into my cycle of 2 grams a week so it aint kicked in yet as test cyp takes longer than a week to kick in if you didnt know, your just argumentative and i aint got time for ignorent pigs lkike you

i never brag here so dont take it as im bragging either...

im one of the strongest guys in my gym, may not be the biggest but none can compare to my composition. AND I DONT RUN TEST AT 2 GRAMS A WEEK!!!!!

Unless you;re a professional bodybuilder, 2 gram a week is not the way to go bro. next cycle u'll go for 2,500 grams. and after that 3,000 grams per week.

You do realise there is only so much you can humanly and possibly gain on a cycle dont you?
You'll cap out your gains just like someone would have at 700mg per week and the rest shall contribute to sides.

What book are you reading???? So we all make sure not to read the same book.

 

[AKA]

look i have a lot of respect for you guys and admit i have alot to learn so whats the attitude all about this site is about guiding people not smart asses, if any of you guys would like to suggest the real way to play the game im all years you know and my beef aint with you scar as i do have respect for all you guys who have been doing it alot longer than me its just that guys been riding me for a couple of days now when i came to this site expecting some informative chat and to help eachother but for some reason your all hostile and seem to have some kind of grudge but thanks any way scar my beef aint with you mate just wanted to have my opinion and a grown up discusion thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Scarz]

no probs. im sure they all mean well.

i just hope you reconsider the dose you're running test at. think long term for a second. its not too late, consider it up to this point as a super duper front loading stage. drop the dose man, i honestly see you headed for regret and trouble down the line.

i've seen it happen. even to vets.

 

[freqfly]

and whi;le where on the subject im only 1 week into my cycle of 2 grams a week so it aint kicked in yet as test cyp takes longer than a week to kick in if you didnt know, your just argumentative and i aint got time for ignorent pigs lkike you

2 grams??! 176?? Whoah...

 

[AKA]

no probs. im sure they all mean well.

i just hope you reconsider the dose you're running test at. think long term for a second. its not too late, consider it up to this point as a super duper front loading stage. drop the dose man, i honestly see you headed for regret and trouble down the line.

i've seen it happen. even to vets.

thanks scar i will consider dropping the dose its just the gear round by me is underdosed and its hard to find nice gear but ive changed my source and am gna run this for 2-3weeks see what the gains are and then when i know ive got descent gear im gna stock up and then drop it as advised and mayby run it with a little tren ace but thats been my prob really, cheers for advice bro

AKA

 

[Ythrashin]

look i have a lot of respect for you guys and admit i have alot to learn so whats the attitude all about this site is about guiding people not smart asses, if any of you guys would like to suggest the real way to play the game im all years you know and my beef aint with you scar as i do have respect for all you guys who have been doing it alot longer than me its just that guys been riding me for a couple of days now when i came to this site expecting some informative chat and to help eachother but for some reason your all hostile and seem to have some kind of grudge but thanks any way scar my beef aint with you mate just wanted to have my opinion and a grown up discusion thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok... my post did what I wanted it to do and get some others to tell you that 2 grams its way off and after 2 cycles you should be closer to your goal of 95kilos.

First of all, it was you that got the attitude with me on another thread while I was trying to explain that something is wrong...So I responded with an attitude...Probably shouldn't have, but I just woke up to get ready for work and read your response and was aggravated.

Either your gear is under dosed, diets wrong,trainings wrong or some other unknown factor.

Here was the conversation....

Holy fuck!! 2 grams of test per week!! Not extreme? I think it is.... I've ran about about 10 cycles and never went over 750mg of test per wk. Although I've stacked with one or two other substances...but damn I think you are jumpin the ball running 2 grams of test per week and its your 3rd cycle....

What did you run your other 2 cycles?

Insulin too...my.. oh.. my...

I hope you dont turn into one of those steroid horror stories we see on the news...yikes!

Hmm...I'm really leaning toward under dosed UG gear. I cant imagine taking 2 grams of test...

What are your stats?

My stats are 5'9 80kg 8% bf want to want toget to about 95kg lean,
1 week into my cycle seeing some strength gains and seem to have more endurance than usual am training alot harder than ever before and am bloody loving it hope the gains follow will keep you all updated if your interested. cheers
AKA

Crazy...80kg = 176 lbs

I weigh 230lbs = 104.5kg, 10% body fat

Running 500mg Sust and 400mg deca at the moment and am feeling great...

Just doesnt make sense needing 2grams of test to make gains at your body weight.

Something just doesnt add up....

Your response to my concern....

well sorry i havnt got super gear like you im not lucky like that this is the only way that works with the gear round where i live wish it were easier but until i find super gear like you i guess im stuck with my shitty 2grams a week bro.
AKA

You should have your Testosterone level tested mid cycle to see where you are at.

Gear may be solid and not under dosed.Just saying "something doesnt add up". Perhaps your diet needs some work...or perhaps some other factor is effecting gains.

Your response saying that I was:

I appreciate all feedback and if you would like to point out some of the factors that mayby coming into play I would more than happily try to change my regieme to taylor im always looking for any tips tricks to find perfection and maximise my gear. thanks bro
AKA

So what if your gear is not under dosed? What if you are truly running 2 grams of test and fucking yourself up?Dude, Run 500-800 mg max and get your blood levels tested!! You just dont go ahead and run 2 grams of test with the assumption that its under dosed!

Disagreeing with what someone is doing, does not make them argumentative and hostile. A person expressing concern and not agreeing with what you are doing does not mean that the person is "riding you". I was trying to get my point across to you...
You just were not understanding...

Im not "riding you" just trying to get my point across to you...

I dont really know why I give a shit about you though...LOL

 

[Ythrashin]

I wouldn't take advice from you if my life depended on it...
.

I apologize for this sentence... I usually dont respond negatively like that. Just saw your post on the other thread and it caught me at a bad time.That is no excuse though...