Katanadrol/helladrol or clen?

deadweiight

deadweiight

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hey guys im looking for a nice rip stack, looked at reviews for hella/katanadrol and it looks legit, running both at same time that is the only thing is my guy is giving me crazyprices for clomid.. so instead of buyin the katana and hella i was thinking about just running some clen.. any suggestions as too what i should do, the prohormone route is going to cost me alot more than just clen, and willl the results be that different?
 
katandrol/helladrol or clen

hey guys im looking for a nice rip stack, looked at reviews for hella/katanadrol and it looks legit, running both at same time that is the only thing is my guy is giving me crazyprices for clomid.. so instead of buyin the katana and hella i was thinking about just running some clen.. any suggestions as too what i should do, the prohormone route is going to cost me alot more than just clen, and willl the results be that different?
 
Why would you ever run helladrol without test. This isnt' bodybuilding.com, that shit is retarded.

If you want to lean out, I'd suggest neither of the above options, increase your cardio, and run a home made EC stack.
 
Ok I assume you have never used any AAS?

If you are looking to do a cutting cycle on a budget it really limits what you are going to get. IMHO (and I do not like it) Clen is the only option you have suggested that will do what you want it to do.

Clen can be really hard on your body so I have a hard time giving it the nod.

Personally I would do something like this:

12-14 wks of test E or C @ 400-500 mg per wk, Along with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and PCT
email 3j with your goals and only eat what he tells you to when he tell you to....cannot go wrong.

Also I would need to know your stats before giving the thumbs up on any AAS!
 
guys that look to use any of these products for cutting are the same guys that dont have enough determination or will power to diet and do cardio properly. You dont need shit to lose fat...food and cardio will do the best
 
my diets clean i dropped down to 8-9% bf through diet i just have a sick problem with chest fat i cant get rid of i run 5 miles every week and my whole workout is non stop high intensity, i wanted to get down to 4-5% bf for summer(shoulder striations haha), im not looking to run test.. to harsh was just looking for a lil umph before the summer if you guys feel me.. the reviews for the stuff were good i just wanted to run it past you guys first.. and dr steal no i've never ran AAS before... currently i'm 180 lbs round 17% bf my diet has been a little off over the winter.. just being a lazy bastaad i'll admit it... but my cutting diet is all low glycemic brown rice, oats,whole weat bread, quoina, barley flax etc.. and my protein sources are fish,chicken, eggs (like 30-40 egg whites a day), red meat and i'm pretty hardcore with it i drink puree veggies, no salt on anything as an example of just how crazy i got wit my summer diet
 
deadweiight said:
my diets clean i dropped down to 8-9% bf through diet i just have a sick problem with chest fat i cant get rid of i run 5 miles every week and my whole workout is non stop high intensity, i wanted to get down to 4-5% bf for summer(shoulder striations haha), im not looking to run test.. to harsh was just looking for a lil umph before the summer if you guys feel me.. the reviews for the stuff were good i just wanted to run it past you guys first.. and dr steal no i've never ran AAS before... currently i'm 180 lbs round 17% bf my diet has been a little off over the winter.. just being a lazy bastaad i'll admit it... but my cutting diet is all low glycemic brown rice, oats,whole weat bread, quoina, barley flax etc.. and my protein sources are fish,chicken, eggs (like 30-40 egg whites a day), red meat and i'm pretty hardcore with it i drink puree veggies, no salt on anything as an example of just how crazy i got wit my summer diet
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you think test is harsh? That shows how much you know about this stuff. The three things you listed above are far more harsh then test bro. Your body makes test naturally so how do you consider it harsh?

and at 8-9% bf you wont have chest fat lol
 
i keep fat round my chest not sure why, i used to be chunky when i was younger i migh have gyno from it i have a small lump under left nipple i just got my hormone lvls checked waiting for results... but my left chest holds fat crazy i had an 8 pack but still fat on my chest.. i dont know that much your right but i signed up too this board to learn.... doesnt test shut down your body's natural production? idk thats why i always thought it was harsh if it just switches off things in your body but im not sure you guys know better than i do
 
deadweiight said:
i keep fat round my chest not sure why, i used to be chunky when i was younger i migh have gyno from it i have a small lump under left nipple i just got my hormone lvls checked waiting for results... but my left chest holds fat crazy i had an 8 pack but still fat on my chest.. i dont know that much your right but i signed up too this board to learn.... doesnt test shut down your body's natural production? idk thats why i always thought it was harsh if it just switches off things in your body but im not sure you guys know better than i do
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you have a unique problem with the chest fat. If its still there at 8%bf bro Im afraid to tell you that you proly wont ever get rid of it. You cant run around at 4% bf. Seems that is the location your body has chose to put your fat vs your gut like mine does lol

anyway bro ya exogenous test shuts down your natty test but you restart that with serm therapy aka post cycle therapy (pct). Clen is terrible for your heart and the other two just sound nasty. im not big on those types of compounds because you can do everything you want without them.

ps they dont work as good as you think or the reviews say
 
yea man it sucks, i've always had this damn chest fat..prob juss stuck with it... i was talkin to friend he told me to run test,deca any input on this?....200lbs your def right with those prohormones prob just fucks your body up with minimal benefits... if i could look like my avatar cpt america... that would be dope haha i have a long way to go from 180
 
stop worrying about damn compounds so much and start worrying about your diet!!! all the compounds in the world dont mean shit if your diet isn't in check!!!
 
hahaha ya 3j def shoots it straight!

Bro I think test deca would be a worse idea. You can cut on deca but your diet has to be dialed in.
 
3j i sent your website an email...200lbs my friends a shoot and see kinda guy, does tren without pct etc kinda dumb i think personally
 
clen would be cheaper but it is super hard to find very legit(unspiked) clen at a good price but katana/hella would be a great cycle. I would suggest peptides for cutting and steroids(PHs) for bulking, JMHO!

I hope this helped!
 
deadweiight said:
hey guys im looking for a nice rip stack, looked at reviews for hella/katanadrol and it looks legit, running both at same time that is the only thing is my guy is giving me crazyprices for clomid.. so instead of buyin the katana and hella i was thinking about just running some clen.. any suggestions as too what i should do, the prohormone route is going to cost me alot more than just clen, and willl the results be that different?
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The Katandrol should be ran at 300mg a day or so....but it will have the ability to accrue mild tissue while diet and cardio peel the fat. Clen will help you cut fat ----but muscles will deflate and strength will dissipate as you will not have high enough anabolic hormones in your blood to maintain tissue while cutting bodyfat ......


I have had greater success with peptides in a gaining phase due to the ghrelin mimetic effects of the ghrp's. Also the added fluid retention helps with strength and joints.

-Matt
 
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