KETO Diet

[swizzoled]

Freq what do you take in PWO on that diet ?

 

[freqfly]

I'm actually on a new version of that diet, I'm about 15 weeks out of my next show. My PWO is 2 scoops whey and 1 tbl PB.

 

[dosvamfo]

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[swizzoled]

I'm actually on a new version of that diet, I'm about 15 weeks out of my next show. My PWO is 2 scoops whey and 1 tbl PB.

you don't use carbs PWO ? Do you lose muscle being the carbs are so low ?

 

[freqfly]

Last time I lost a very very small amount, also 35 lbs of fat though too. I was also natty that time. Not this time though ;-) So I'll preserve my lbm

 

[MS1605]

Just out of curiosity, wouldnt taking in some carbs right after a workout still keep you in keto? I would think that if you worked as hard as you should have in the gym and took your carb heavy shake right away it wouldn't knock you out of ketosis. any thoughts?

 

[cancun123]

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[swizzoled]

Just out of curiosity, wouldnt taking in some carbs right after a workout still keep you in keto? I would think that if you worked as hard as you should have in the gym and took your carb heavy shake right away it wouldn't knock you out of ketosis. any thoughts?

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[freqfly]

Just out of curiosity, wouldnt taking in some carbs right after a workout still keep you in keto? I would think that if you worked as hard as you should have in the gym and took your carb heavy shake right away it wouldn't knock you out of ketosis. any thoughts?

If you're going that route, add them in about 30 minutes BEFORE lifting, preferably some complex carbs like oats or rice. You'll use them up during lifting thus keeping you in ketosis. Taking them post increases your chance of higher insulin levels longer after lifting thus interrupting ketosis. This method is called Targete Ketogenic Dieting (TKD)

 

[Blondie_Bombshell]

If you're going that route, add them in about 30 minutes BEFORE lifting, preferably some complex carbs like oats or rice. You'll use them up during lifting thus keeping you in ketosis. Taking them post increases your chance of higher insulin levels longer after lifting thus interrupting ketosis. This method is called Targete Ketogenic Dieting (TKD)

Thanks Freq I never heard of TKD but Im going to look into it now.

 

[swizzoled]

If you're going that route, add them in about 30 minutes BEFORE lifting, preferably some complex carbs like oats or rice. You'll use them up during lifting thus keeping you in ketosis. Taking them post increases your chance of higher insulin levels longer after lifting thus interrupting ketosis. This method is called Targete Ketogenic Dieting (TKD)

I thought by taking in carbs PWO this replaces resources used up by workout ?

 

[freqfly]

I thought by taking in carbs PWO this replaces resources used up by workout ?

You're right, however the point of TKD is just to fuel your workout, burn up the carbs, lower insulin and continue ketosis. Glycogen stores fill up faster than most realize and by taking in too many carbs PWO, not only will you restore glycogen but there will be spill over and since your insulin is raised it will just get stored as fat, plus you'll be eating a pro/fat meal within 2 hours PWO so you don't want elevated insulin levels when taking in fat. When I switched from full keto to TKD, I just started with 2/3 cup rolled oats 30 minutes pre WO and it did wonders while continuing shredding fat. And it was great getting somewht of a pump in the gym again.

 

[swizzoled]

You're right, however the point of TKD is just to fuel your workout, burn up the carbs, lower insulin and continue ketosis. Glycogen stores fill up faster than most realize and by taking in too many carbs PWO, not only will you restore glycogen but there will be spill over and since your insulin is raised it will just get stored as fat, plus you'll be eating a pro/fat meal within 2 hours PWO so you don't want elevated insulin levels when taking in fat. When I switched from full keto to TKD, I just started with 2/3 cup rolled oats 30 minutes pre WO and it did wonders while continuing shredding fat. And it was great getting somewht of a pump in the gym again.

Do you maintain muscle ? All the people on BB.com swear that you need carbs PWO..

 

[freqfly]

If your 100% natty, IMHO I do not think it's possible to build or maintain 100% muscle, on a tkd or keto. I've read mixed studies where people have successfully bulker using a ckd however (Cyclic Keto Diet) where you're full keto sun-Friday night, then carb load for 24-36 hours straight (similar to the old anabolic diet written I'm the 90's). Although I have never tried such approach as when I bulk, I have carbs all week. I do, however, believe it is possible to maintain most muscle mass while keto dieting while on AAS.

 

[3J]

i'v read about TDK... i guess IF you follow it correctly you can get away with it.. yet not too many people have the disapline necessary to run TDK fromwhat iv seen

 

[freqfly]

Very true. I have to say going full keto for 12 weeks straight without cheating for my last pre contest was the most physically and mentally challenging things I've ever gone through.