kind of carb to take after insulin shot?

[gocholympia]

As you changed your post (understandable because of the link), which I respect, I'm going to lay this out for you one more time. Lo siento, no se como se decir todas las palabras en El Español por explicando esa sujecto, y por que este es un lugar publico por la gente Ingles - es mejor que uso Ingles. (yes, my Spanish is quite rusty)

It is untrue, regardless of what your insulin resistance is that simple sugars are needed. The big difference between a diabetic and non-diabetic is simply the DOSE.

I can die just as easily as you, but the big difference is that I can die if I DON'T take the insulin. You don't have to worry about not taking enough insulin, I do. Other than those differences, the food consumed is the same.

HOWEVER, if you want to consume an extra 200 calories of sugar because bro-fessionals on the Internet have convinced you that you'll die (it's to cover their asses), please do so.

To answer your question directly, there's NO DIFFERENCE between dextrose, sucrose, fructose (orange juice is a "rescue sugar"), and straight up glucose for your purposes.

i understand you im serious, but i know for sure that 3ml of insulin are300ui because there´s 100uis per CC of slin. and well i believe that maybe im not going to run the slin cuz i dont feel like i have enough knowledge but saying this i also want to know the proper way because in the future im going to run it that´s sure.

so for end this what u want to say is that i would be great aving 100g of oats after insuline shot if im shoting 6uis because there are the 10g per ui and also is a complex carb and after that meal maybe oats and eggs one or two hours later i anyways have to take another high carb low fat meal again i wont need the dextrose or all that shit ofc some candys on my bag if i start feeling hypo ? i algo would use the glucose meter to keep checking the glucose on my blood ? what do you think ? i just want to learn for use that in the future.

 

[soldier74]

Fast acting glucose sources are only needed if you're hypoglycemic. If doses of insulin are appropriate for the carbs consumed, it doesn't matter to any great extent. In fact, just consuming empty calories to prevent hypoglycemia may have the OPPOSITE effect desired, as they're in - then out of your system while the insulin is still peaking.

Complex carbs are actually the best means (and best nutritional value) here to aid with the goals sought after. I still am of the firm belief that you don't need insulin OP, but I do like how you're at least reading up on the topic.

FYI: Insulin takes up to 30 minutes to reach serum levels from an injection, and can last for several hours. This is WILDLY different from the stuff your pancreas makes, and they DO stack. So, please be careful.

I like your style HW! You are one humble dude that always seems to genuinely care for the op with the responses you give brother. Quite refreshing...

 

[halfwit]

i understand you im serious, but i know for sure that 3ml of insulin are300ui because there´s 100uis per CC of slin. and well i believe that maybe im not going to run the slin cuz i dont feel like i have enough knowledge but saying this i also want to know the proper way because in the future im going to run it that´s sure.

so for end this what u want to say is that i would be great aving 100g of oats after insuline shot if im shoting 6uis because there are the 10g per ui and also is a complex carb and after that meal maybe oats and eggs one or two hours later i anyways have to take another high carb low fat meal again i wont need the dextrose or all that shit ofc some candys on my bag if i start feeling hypo ? i algo would use the glucose meter to keep checking the glucose on my blood ? what do you think ? i just want to learn for use that in the future.

If we're just talking Humalog or another fast acting insulin, the oats with a protein source are sufficient. I don't know where the fats idea cones from, unless the idea is to shuttle in needed fats for daily macros, but honestly if you're running insulin - it won't matter, as it will be a part of EVERY meal.

Long acting insulin is a bit different, and will require a great deal more homework as this is where timing comes into play. But then again, as it can take 4-14 hours to digest a single meal, and if the carbs in that meal are complex - risk greatly decreases.

Inject insulin, eat the planned meal rich in carbs and protein, check glucose two hours later. If you start feeling dizzy or get a cold sweat, check glucose. If glucose is low (50-65ish), that's when simple sugars are needed. If you start seeing low numbers consistently, you're taking way too much insulin, and a reassessment is needed.

This is why it's greatly recommended to stay away before bed, as you may not wake up if your go hypoglycemic. I do personally wake up, which doesn't happen very often thankfully, but it's some scary stuff.

 

[cybrsage]

This is also why I strongly discourage people from using insulin unless they NEED it to grow. There's just far too much misinformation, and none of us that do know how to use it want to be responsible for someone killing themselves because they don't know the difference between 3iu and 3cc.

Seeing as taking Glucosamine for a month raised my fasting glucose level by over 30 points, I am forever going to stay away from injecting insulin. Insulin is too dangerous to use if you are not 100% sure of what you are doing. IMO, it should be placed in the same list as DNP as a substance that kills the uninformed.

 

[gocholympia]

If we're just talking Humalog or another fast acting insulin, the oats with a protein source are sufficient. I don't know where the fats idea cones from, unless the idea is to shuttle in needed fats for daily macros, but honestly if you're running insulin - it won't matter, as it will be a part of EVERY meal.

Long acting insulin is a bit different, and will require a great deal more homework as this is where timing comes into play. But then again, as it can take 4-14 hours to digest a single meal, and if the carbs in that meal are complex - risk greatly decreases.

Inject insulin, eat the planned meal rich in carbs and protein, check glucose two hours later. If you start feeling dizzy or get a cold sweat, check glucose. If glucose is low (50-65ish), that's when simple sugars are needed. If you start seeing low numbers consistently, you're taking way too much insulin, and a reassessment is needed.

This is why it's greatly recommended to stay away before bed, as you may not wake up if your go hypoglycemic. I do personally wake up, which doesn't happen very often thankfully, but it's some scary stuff.

Thanks alot for the info and also thanks alot for take your time to talk to me and also expalin me every thing you are great bro!

 

[Milton]

Hola muchas gracias! podemos hablar en privado ?

No hay nececidad que me envies mensajes privados, aqui te estan dando el mejor consejo del mundo, suerte!

 

[Milton]

Thanks alot for the info and also thanks alot for take your time to talk to me and also expalin me every thing you are great bro!

Good, let us know how it goes.

 

[Milton]

Hows it going?

 

[halfape211]

Dude, You are playing with dangerous stuff and it is not worth your life. You look in great shape and I'm sure your dead corpse will the best looking one in the morgue. You either need a diabetic kit to measure your blood sugar or go on to something else IMO. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but it would be ashamed if you do not wake up one morning. Seriously, if your blood sugars go low enough, you may not be able to get out of bed. Another thing..., having very low (going hypo) is very hard on your heart. Would you drive a car with a blacked out windshield? Probably not as we need to know where we're going. Respectfully, you don't know where you're going everytime you inject. Take care of yourself my friend, seriously.
((And this is why they say: "Youth is wasted on the young." He's young, in great shape, probably in good health. But with risk taking like this, he may not live long enough to fat and old))
There.., that's all the kindness I had stored up.

BTW This coming from a Type 2 diabetic on insulin for several years

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

No don't eat grains as your source of carbs with insulin. You will end up dead. You want simple act a not complex carbs that take a long time to digest. I used yogurt with fruit as my carbs. Make sure you understand there are 2 spikes with humalinR first is in 15 minutes. So eat right after your shot or before. Then again in 1.5 hrs

Prett sure I wrote the article mentioned above about 12 years ago. I don't recomend using insulin it can kill you every time you use it if you don't use it propperly.

 

[halfape211]

Prett sure I wrote the article mentioned above about 12 years ago. I don't recomend using insulin it can kill you every time you use it if you don't use it propperly.

Hi DPR, If you are referring to my post, thank you for the compliment as you seem to be kind of bright. I managed to write it without seeing your post from 12 years ago. lol If you are not referring to my post above then, I'll just give my head a shake to figure out how I mistook your comment.