Labido help/advice - [Blood work included]

[cjnthumper]

Looking for some advice, I have read many posts...and know that libido is a waiting game after pct.

I ran a 12 week cycle of Test(cyp)/Tren. 400mg of test and 200 mg of tren per week.

started clomid 2 weeks after last pin, and ran nolva on cycle and for pct.
clomid - 150/100/50ish/50
nolva 40/30/20/20

4 weeks of pct ended 1/2/17.

Had bloods done yesterday 1/3/17 just to see where things stood.

I have no libido right now, and ED is an issue. I know its common and comes back with time.....but not being able to have good quality rock hard sex is getting to me. Wife and I do it probably 4 times per week so its messing with me mentally. Trying not to stress about it, knowing it will come back to normal as I have always had strong sex drive.

I ordered some liquid CIA from rui to use Friday to see how it helps with the ed issue, FYI I can get it up for sex and during sex, but I would say its only 70-80% hard compared to normal sessions.
The other thing that bugs is just the loss of libido, not getting aroused easy or at all, not being as excited about sex....yada yada yada.

**Stats:
34 years old
workout 3x per week
5'9"
198 lbs.

**Question**

My question is: should I continue Clomid and/or Nolva for another 1-4 weeks? (or anything else?)

I have attached my bloodwork, just keep in mind it has been done while pct still in me.

I did not run HCG at any point.

thanks!

 

[Black Beard]

Looking for some advice, I have read many posts...and know that libido is a waiting game after pct.

I ran a 12 week cycle of Test(cyp)/Tren. 400mg of test and 200 mg of tren per week.

started clomid 2 weeks after last pin, and ran nolva on cycle and for pct.
clomid - 150/100/50ish/50
nolva 40/30/20/20

4 weeks of pct ended 1/2/17.

Had bloods done yesterday 1/3/17 just to see where things stood.

I have no libido right now, and ED is an issue. I know its common and comes back with time.....but not being able to have good quality rock hard sex is getting to me. Wife and I do it probably 4 times per week so its messing with me mentally. Trying not to stress about it, knowing it will come back to normal as I have always had strong sex drive.

I ordered some liquid CIA from rui to use Friday to see how it helps with the ed issue, FYI I can get it up for sex and during sex, but I would say its only 70-80% hard compared to normal sessions.
The other thing that bugs is just the loss of libido, not getting aroused easy or at all, not being as excited about sex....yada yada yada.

**Stats:
34 years old
workout 3x per week
5'9"
198 lbs.

**Question**

My question is: should I continue Clomid and/or Nolva for another 1-4 weeks? (or anything else?)

I have attached my bloodwork, just keep in mind it has been done while pct still in me.

I did not run HCG at any point.

thanks!

Two issues i see here;


1. The testosterone boosting effect of clomid and nolva are still in effect in your body. Your high total testerone is not yet indicative of an effective PCT, you will see in the coming months when you re-test what you are actual endogenous levels are.

2. Nolva & clomiphene can positively and negatively effect libido in people. Your decrease in libido may be due to the PCT drugs.

3. Your estradiol/E2 is undetectable. This alone will cause zero libido in most people and ED problems in others.


Are you or were you taking any kind of aromatase inhibitor? Your E2 should not be undetectable. That much testosterone should be converting into some amount of estradiol, and nolvadex/clomid actually increase E2 levels. Maybe one of your PCT drugs is actually an AI(wrong compound). Is this UGL or pharmaceutical grade PCT?

 

[appleton111]

was this your first cycle? whats you cycle history? Thanks for posting your labs.

 

[3J]

you didn't wait long enough to run your labs.. you should have waited 4-6 weeks..

having said that, your ed issue is due to low e2 levels... and when those bounce back and if your test levels stabilize to a decent level youll be back to normal in no time..

just be patient as your estrogen levels rise

 

[cjnthumper]

I used some adex on cycle for a short time when i had some nipple soreness, but it did not last long. I mainly stuck to using Nolva on cycle, purchasedfrom different peptide companies.

Was planning on ceasing use of pct drugs today, then wait and see how I feel at end of month (and will get new bloodwork done). Main concern was just labido....I know its the right of passage, just so frustrating!

Also wondering if there is anything else i should take (besides the liquid cia, when needed) for the labido boost. I did stock up on Vitamin D, some DAA.

This is my second cycle, first one was just Test Sustanon, did not really experince the lost libido. The tren was great on cycle, but its definitely strong, and recovery will likely take a bit. Just fihing for wisdom from people that have had experiences with Tren, and curious how long after pct libido came back (I realize its different for everyone).

 

[cjnthumper]

thanks!

 

[Black Beard]

Depending on how long ago you took the ADEX your E2 should have bounced back by now. Your source may have given you an AI in place of nolva or clomid. I personally go for pharmaceutical grade ancillaries.

 

[cjnthumper]

Depending on how long ago you took the ADEX your E2 should have bounced back by now. Your source may have given you an AI in place of nolva or clomid. I personally go for pharmaceutical grade ancillaries.

ya I suppose that could be the case....will keep yall posted on how it goes. Will likely get blood checked again in early March. Wonder how long it takes for E2 to rise back up?

I may just stick to Test cycles in the future, not as many gains, but recovery was way easier on Sustanon obviously.

thanks again for the insight!

 

[Black Beard]

ya I suppose that could be the case....will keep yall posted on how it goes. Will likely get blood checked again in early March. Wonder how long it takes for E2 to rise back up?

I may just stick to Test cycles in the future, not as many gains, but recovery was way easier on Sustanon obviously.

thanks again for the insight!

not that long at all. You have to be taking an AI without knowing.

Glad to help man, let us know how it goes.

 

[cjnthumper]

not that long at all. You have to be taking an AI without knowing.

Glad to help man, let us know how it goes.

well I think I figured that one out.....forgot I had took one dose of anastrozole couple days prior to blood. I knew bloodwork would be skewed from pct anyways just wanted to go thru process now to see where I'm at and learn more about reading the panel so it will be easier to see where I'm at in March.

 

[cjnthumper]

It went pretty good this weekend, had sex Fri, Sat, Sun night. I did use the liquid Cialis a few hours before and it seemed to help achieve better erection. last night was the best erection and it was at half of a mL, so 15 mg. I also picked up some libido max at cvs to add into the mix. Starting to feel normal already.

 

[cjnthumper]

ok fellas here is my bloodwork 6 weeks after PCT, any thoughts? Estrogen is a little high....

 

[Milton]

ok fellas here is my bloodwork 6 weeks after PCT, any thoughts? Estrogen is a little high....

upload the pics again, they are not loading.

 

[cjnthumper]

weird...my computer is giving me fits, can you see them in this post?

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/689701-bloodwork-6-weeks-after-pct-advice-appreciated.html

 

[Black Beard]

I don't see it. What are your testosterone levels now?

BTW, DAA is a useless supplement. Vitamin D is great for you when you bring levels up to optimum ( 45-70 ng/dL)

Make sure you try to get pharma grade PCT and AI next time. You will recover better if you run HCG through out your cycle next time ( 250-500 IU x 2 per week )