LEAN bulk cycle

deanziL

deanziL

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hi guys, new to the forums and the world of steroids. Iv been training hard and dieting clean for 2.5 years and noticed good gains, but im looking to take it to another level.

was thinking bout Tren Ace and Test Prop, and possibly clen n t3
what would be the best dosages? Remembering this would be my very first cycle
also would nolva and clomid be sufficient PCT.

thanks in advance !
 
for a very first cycle thats a bit much. reason being you dont know how your body will react to everything. its best and highly recommended to start on just Test E for a 12 week cycle at 500mg a week 2 shots a week along with a good PCT
 
i was thinking it would be abit much, wasnt sure. Why the test E tho ? dont you hold more water and take longer to kick in ?
 
Tren is a big no no for a first cycle. This is what a first cycle should look like

1-12 Test E or C

And you can run adex through your whole cycle or just have it on hand. I always just have adex on hand incase. Some say its better to run it with your cycle.

Pct Nolva and clomid together for 4 weeks.

Nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 50/50/50/50

You will make really great gains off of a test E cycle only. And if you want your Bulk to be Lean then Watch your diet. Eat Clean. It isnt the compound that decieds if you cut or bulk its your diet.
 
deanziL said:
i was thinking it would be abit much, wasnt sure. Why the test E tho ? dont you hold more water and take longer to kick in ?
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Yes Test e will hold more water than prop. But you have to pin Prop EOD. With it being your first cycle your not going to want to pin EOD lol. What you could do is kick start your Test E cycle with Test Prop.
 
Fish44 said:
Tren is a big no no for a first cycle. This is what a first cycle should look like

1-12 Test E or C

And you can run adex through your whole cycle or just have it on hand. I always just have adex on hand incase. Some say its better to run it with your cycle.

Pct Nolva and clomid together for 4 weeks.

Nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 50/50/50/50

You will make really great gains off of a test E cycle only. And if you want your Bulk to be Lean then Watch your diet. Eat Clean. It isnt the compound that decieds if you cut or bulk its your diet.
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beat me to it.

it does take longer to kick in but AAS aren't for over night gains. you still have to WORK HARD and DIET. on top of working hard you must work SMART. its not a race. keep it simple for your first cycle and the more experienced you get the more you can experiment.
 
thanks, so 1-12 test E at what dose ? and how many jags a week?
and for post cycle therapy (pct) nolva and clomid Everyday for 4 weeks?
 
deanziL said:
thanks, so 1-12 test E at what dose ? and how many jags a week?
and for post cycle therapy (pct) nolva and clomid Everyday for 4 weeks?
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Dude you need to do some research. This right here shows you have not done any research. No one here is going to spoon feed you the information. All of us here had to do our research Now its your turn.
 
deanziL said:
18 yo
Weight: 72kg
Height: 5'8''
bf: 11%
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Dude your way to young to mess with gear. You will f your natural test up. Just eat and train and in your mid 20's you can start looking for gear. If you take it at such a young age you will fuck yourself for life.
 
Fish44 said:
Dude you need to do some research. This right here shows you have not done any research. No one here is going to spoon feed you the information. All of us here had to do our research Now its your turn.
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i have done research, but what has been said above is different from what i had in mind.

1-12 Test E (long estered) therefore was thinking one shot at 1000mg would be ok
and i had in mind for PCT- Nolva 100mg/day for first week then 50/20/20

i just dont want to rush into anything and phuck up man :)
 
First off 1000mgs is way to much! and your post cycle therapy (pct) is WAY OFF! look at the first cycle threads on here and you will have everything you need to know and make sure you read all of the stickies. With the amount of research you have done your fixing yourself to be fucked up. I reserached AAS for 2 years before i did my first cycle. AAS isnt a game. YOu can really hurt yourself if you dont know what your doing. I suggest you to not do a cycle any time soon bc you dont know what you are doing and you dont even know the freaking basics about AAS. Come on man. You need to know how to prevent sides. How to prevent gyno and how to get rid of gyno. and you need to know what an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is. Do you even have a clue what an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is?
 
I know I'm no wizard, ad I stated I'm new to steroids and wouldn't start until I knew exactly what I was doing. Thats the reason I joined here, to get some advise
And Aromatase inhibitor (AI) aromatise inhibitor? Estrogen blocker?
 
no one looked at his avi and realized that he was 18? lol

my man you look great in your avi.. with a proper diet and workout routine you can add 10-15kg EASY!!! dont try to take a short cut, especially one that your not ready for.. keep working hard till your about 25 and then think about it.. your no where close to your genetic limit.. focus on your diet.. that's where your lacking.. not because your stupid but because it takes time to figure out the correct diet for yourself and your only 18... post in my free diet advice thread (after reading post 1 please) and ill critique your diet for you
 
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