Lean mass bulk= a mith?

[kovic]

I was reading a lot about this topic without a concluyent word...
¿Does the lean mas bulk with steroids exist?
Suposing i'm doing a ckd at matainance cals, with 500 mg test EW, can i expect muscle gains?
(I know the gains will be better at higer cals)

Some experiences?

 

[drk_diggler]

Its not a myth... Tren/prop/good diet/cardio=lean gains...

 

[drk_diggler]

Its not a myth... Tren/prop/good diet/cardio=lean gains... Or almost any steroids and the above=lean gains

 

[rippednick]

iv done that stack before and it was the leanest gains iv ever had and the best iv ever looked.

 

[Ifrit]

Keep your diet clean. Last bulk I got up to 205 pounds but I was a fat ass and by the time I had dieted down I was almost the same as I was before. Right now I am eating 4,500 calories a day at 184 pounds and gaining 1-1.5 pounds a week and on my last dirty bulk I was gaining 3 pounds a week on 3,000 calories ande most was fat I was gaining. Slowly gaining is much better than blowing up like a fat ass and having to strip it down. Being on both sides clean and dirty I can GREATLY say clean is way better and unless your etiopian there is no need to eat shit.

 

[JohnnyB]

If you're doing maintenance calories don't expect to gain muscle, add 500 calories of protein a day to that and you'll gain.

JohnnyB

 

[kovic]

Thanks...
As i said, it was very difficult to me to loose my body fat. I'm terrified about the idea of gettin fat again
JohnyB, you say at 500 cal of protein over the manteinance i will get muscle but not fat?

 

[Mudge]

Not a myth, just never as fast as true bulk/cut diets.

 

[62todd]

tech. each in its raw state it takes 16 burned cals to burn 1 gram of fat, it takes 32 cals burned to burn 1 gram carb. and 16 cals bunred to burn 1 gram of protien ..............so you must eat enough clean calories to support ur protein intake and to actually utilize the proteins

 

[heavymetalhead]

adding calories slowly, maybe 300 calories at a time

 

[BoBoy]

adding calories slowly, maybe 300 calories at a time

Which is where I"m at now , cut for 4 months @1550 cal/day then went to 1750cal/day now at 2000 and havent added any fat yet . Next stop 2300/day , then 2600 & finally about 2850cal/day . I"m only 160lbs@5'5" so I stay under 3000cal/day or else back to fat. I weighed 240lbs 3 years ago. ~Bo

 

[BoBoy]

If I add calories too fast I get fat ; thats why you don't go from 1550 cal/day to 2850 overnite . And get on : myfitnesspal.com , I owe alot of my fat loss success to counting macro's , and theirs is the easiest one to use.....

 

[BoBoy]

And of course maintain high protein levels , but I dont go overboard . 1-1.5 gms per lb/bodyweight which for me works out to 160-240 gms a day is plenty of protein without straining the kidneys too much . Keeping high protein levels while lowering calories is the key to not losing your hard earned muscle.