Letro for gyno reversal log and questions

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Wheatmonallstar1998

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Howdy,

Just looking for some support on reversing minor gyno from a past D-bol Cycle.

I did 2 cycles of Winstrol (winny) about a year ago and had very good gains (10 pounds each cycle) and then I had the bright idea of doing a D-bol only cycle with Nolva for PCT.

Gains were fantastic but a few months after I noticed a lump forming under my left nipple. Got Nolva and Clomid and ran that for a month and things seemed to subside.

Then about 2 months ago the lump started to come back (no AAS for 6 months now) so I went on Nolva 40mg/d and the lump seemed a little softer and less sore but would still flare up.

Did some reading around online and here and found that Letro seemed to work for some people so 3 Days ago I began my Letro crusade.

I started taking Letro 2.5mg/d since the pills crumble easily when I try to break them. I have 50 20mg Nolva tabs for use at the end of the Letro.

So far on Letro I can say the sex drive is already starting to go down hill but this does not worry me because if I reverse the gyno then its all worth it. No joint pain yet.

Pills are from Medi-Star Labs here in Canada. From a trusted source.

The lump has already got a lot softer and is about the size of quarter under my nipple. There also seems to be slightly less fat on my chest already (maybe in my head).

Here is the overall plan for the foreseeable future:

Run Letro 2.5mg/d for a least 4 weeks and then reassess the situation.

Once I get to a point where the Gyno has either not subsided at all OR has subsided completely OR has subsided as much as I think it will, I will taper the Letro to 1.25mg (half a pill) for a week or so and then run 20mg Nolva for a couple weeks and see how the nipples feel when I come off it.

I would love to hear success and failure stories regarding Letro and gyno lumps.

I will update this thread daily.

I will post pictures in the future if there is interest in this thread.

Thanks for your time boys.

Wheatmon
 
welcome to ology.


good luck on reversing your gyno .

you have ran 2 winnie only and 1 dbol only cycle , do some research and you will see they were ALL a bad idea.
 
Wow quick responses. Yea I know the D-Bol especially was a horrible idea.

The Winnie I tend to disagree slightly since my results were so good and I kept my gains. Although if the Winstrol (winny) only cycle messed up my hormones some how and caused the gyno then I'm wrong. I found the Winstrol (winny) only was perfect for gaining lean muscle.

Cheers
 
Wheatmonallstar1998 said:
Wow quick responses. Yea I know the D-Bol especially was a horrible idea.

The Winnie I tend to disagree slightly since my results were so good and I kept my gains. Although if the Winstrol (winny) only cycle messed up my hormones some how and caused the gyno then I'm wrong. I found the Winstrol (winny) only was perfect for gaining lean muscle.

Cheers
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unless you were nearly anorexic winnie did not put 10 pounds of lean mass on you by itself . you probablly did like almost everyone does and ate and trained better because you were on cycle which added most of the lean mass.
winnie is a 17a steroid which means it stresses the liver , its also one of the worst if not the worst on lipids/cholesterol , it dries out the joints ,sheds hair,etc.
winnie has 1 use imo and thats precontest for a bodybuilder since it does dry you out.
 
Dadawg speaks the truth.

In addition, if you're going to go balls to the wall to get attempt to chemically get rid of gyno, head to rui-products and pick up some raloxifene as well. Running those two together is your strongest chance to make it go away (even though the only truly 100% effective method is surgery).
 
DADAWG said:
unless you were nearly anorexic winnie did not put 10 pounds of lean mass on you by itself . you probablly did like almost everyone does and ate and trained better because you were on cycle which added most of the lean mass.
winnie is a 17a steroid which means it stresses the liver , its also one of the worst if not the worst on lipids/cholesterol , it dries out the joints ,sheds hair,etc.
winnie has 1 use imo and thats precontest for a bodybuilder since it does dry you out.
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I'll just bow down and agree whole heartedly that you are right. I did make those gains on Winstrol (winny) but I was training like it was a full time job and eating a huge amount of food. I'm only 5'7 165 pounds but thats big enough for me. If I can get this gyno knocked out I probably won't touch Anabolics again.

Have you seen people have success with my symptoms on a 2.5mg/d letro run?
 
I feel like the lump has already gotten softer and its kind of hard to explain but it feels different than 3 days ago when I started the Letro. I'm unsure how much interest there would be on this site for a log of pictures as I progress longer into taking the Letro.

If people want the pictures and it does infact work to reverse the gyno completely or partially I feel like it would do a service to anyone who ends up in the same position.
 
essays said:
Dadawg speaks the truth.

In addition, if you're going to go balls to the wall to get attempt to chemically get rid of gyno, head to rui-products and pick up some raloxifene as well. Running those two together is your strongest chance to make it go away (even though the only truly 100% effective method is surgery).
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What exactly is this essays? I'll have to check that out.
 
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(even though the only truly 100% effective method is surgery).
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Well said ill echo this post.

I myself suffer with gyno and have had to get rid of it once by surgery and twice with letro.

First time i was on letro 70 days it shrunk my gyno by about 80% of what it was, but i had to get off the pain i was in wasn't worth it anymore. I was running 2.5mg daily.

Last time i got it i only used 1.25 daily for around 8 weeks and that has shrunk it down to a half a pea size and then i stoped taking it after that, again the pain wasn't worth it anymore.

Letro will shrink your lump, but the only effective way to remove your gyno 100% is surgery, but the gland has to be all removed. I had surgery last year, the reason i got gyno again was because all of the gland in my right side wasnt takin, but i think the left was, so i don't seem to suffer on that side.
 
For what it's worth, there's women everywhere running letrozole at 2.5mg per day for 5 years.
 
Hey Guys,

Thanks for the responses but I would still like to hear if a log of pictures detailing my progression would be helpful? I only ask because despite lots of searching I've never found a Letro blog with before / after style pictures. I feel like the letro is working since the lump already feels differrent.
I dont have a bad case of gyno so 80% reduction would be extremely beneficial.

Thanks again for the interest.

Wheatmon
 
everyone who has gyno or even thinks they have gyno poke,prod ,pull ,examine ,etc. their nipple so much it would be tender and swollen with zero gyno. give your nips a few weeks rest and let letro do what its going to do . abusing your nips in the mean time doesnt accomplish anything.
 
Hey Dadawg,

I'll try my absolute best to leave them alone for as long as possible while the Letro builds in my system. I take a few pics (edit my face out) and post them here later tonight for you guys to judge.

Thanks for the advice.
 
2 more days in and lump is completely painless. I feel like I have a small fever (not sure if that's from the Letro). I'm tired and my knees ache a bit. I've left the lump alone but I've already noticed my chest looks like its shed some fat. Especially on the side with no lump.
I'll continue to update as the days and weeks progress.
 
I will chime in and add that I have had good luck with both letro and raloxifine in the past (didn't run both at the same time).

I have the bad luck of having pubertal gyno. Years ago (about 6, I think) I was researching gyno on the net and came across studies showing raloxifine to shrink gyno so I gave it a shot. The advantage of running ralo over letro is that you have much fewer side-effects, the downside is it takes much longer to do it's thing (like months and months longer).

I was pretty much gyno free after the raloxifine for years (you always know it's lurking there and can find it if you feel around enough, but it was not visible at all anymore). It didn't flare up again until I started TRT.

The next time around I tried the letro, it worked equally as well and worked much quicker, but it was not a fun ride with all the achy joints and other sides.

Hopefully this will be of some help to you and best of luck!
 
Hey Nate,

Letro is definitely sucking already but I'll give it a week or two to settle in. I'm taking fish oil to help my joints a bit.

When the letro started to work what change did you see in your chest?
 
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