Letro for gyno reversal log and questions

[Natehayes]

Hey Nate,

Letro is definitely sucking already but I'll give it a week or two to settle in. I'm taking fish oil to help my joints a bit.

When the letro started to work what change did you see in your chest?

Less puffiness and that swollen look went away as the lump shrunk. It's quicker than the ralo, but still not a fast process.

I will also add that following a strict lean diet helped a tremendous amount. I think some of the time guys think they have gyno but in reality it's that they are prone to storing fat on their chest, which is what happens to me. I am pretty lean but when I do put on a little soft, blubber it is always in my chest first.

 

[TerpVTX]

A little late now but I would have ramped up the letro to 2.5 mg over a period of a week. In any event, run it at the 2.5 mg per day until the gyno has shrunk down to where you do not notice it anymore. Then ramp down by .5 per day until you get to .5 mg. Run it at .5 mg per day for another week and then then at .5 mg EOD for a week before dropping it completely. This protocol worked well for me in the past.

 

[Wheatmonallstar1998]

The lump is starting to "melt" off it seems. I am definitely prone to a bit of fatty chest even though I am 5'7 160 and wear 30inch jeans.

The pills I have are 2.5mg and don't break easily so I was thinking of running this protocol:

2.5 mg ED until no more change is occuring.
Break pills into 1.25mg (basically half a pill) ED for a week combined with 20mg nolva ED
Then 1.25mg EOD for the next week whilst running 20mg nolva ED
then finish with 2 weeks of 20 mg nolva and 1 week of 10mg nolva then im good.

what do you guys think.

 

[Wheatmonallstar1998]

Lump under left nipple has decreased by ~25% and all sensitivity is gone. Right nipple never had a lump but I believe it had a tiny bit of gyno and now after 9 days of Letro the right side looks completely normal.
Some fatty tissue around the lump still remains and it is hard to say if it has shrunk the same as the lump.
After sex lastnight my nuts felt very odd but I just wrote it off as part of the letro sides and went to sleep. Back, Elbows, and Knees feel the lack of lube but Marijuana before bed makes sleeping no problem.
Will have more updates at end of weekend.
Thanks for tuning in.

 

[essays]

Wheatmon, do you not have a pill splitter? A decent razor pill splitter should be able to break them in half or quarter without crushing them.

 

[Wheatmonallstar1998]

Yo Essays,

I will definitely get one because the Taper Down and then start of Nolva is probably the most important part of this process (am I right?) that Estrogen rebound could really F me up.

Can I purchase a pill splitter at any local pharmacy? (I'm in Canada) Don't wana walk in and look like an idiot asking for one.

Has anyone had any experience with depression from Letro? I feel like offing myself and super anxious but just keep telling myself to calm down and that its just like Letro talking, also weed helps.

Any risk in puffing a bit while trying to keep Estro low? Hopefully that question doesn't open up a huge debate as I'm pretty sure weed doesn't do anything except be awesome as medicine for mind and body.

 

[essays]

Weed an contribute to paranoia/anxiety, especially on steroids. Your mileage may vary.

You can walk into shoppers drug mart in Canada and get a pill splitter for like 5 bucks.

 

[Wheatmonallstar1998]

True about that stuff but the weed doesn't have that effect on me unless I smoke copious amounts. I'm more wondering about the debate as to whether it increases estrogen in a big enough amount to cause a problem. No more change noticeable today.

 

[DADAWG]

True about that stuff but the weed doesn't have that effect on me unless I smoke copious amounts. I'm more wondering about the debate as to whether it increases estrogen in a big enough amount to cause a problem. No more change noticeable today.

leave the dope talk off of this board.

imo decide if you want to be a lifter or a dopehead , they dont mix well.

 

[Shorty159]

i have the same problem with gyno very mild just a lump under right nipple and they go puffy sometimes. Its not really painful but i want it rid of...Im from the UK and used EPI's without a PCT and now have gyno. I took the EPIs over a year ago is it too late? what will i use?

 

[Diablo1990]

weed contributes to gyno so its probably not the best thing to be smoking....

i am very interested in this forum being a gyno sufferer myself and would like to see pictures of results

keep up the good work

 

[China_Wall]

wheatmon... u should be aware that letro may reduce your gyno, but it WILL NOT get rid of it and it WILL come back in the future if u cycle again... only way to eliminate it is surgery as mentioned already

 

[Wheatmonallstar1998]

Hey China Wall,

I definitely know that the gyno wont be totally eliminated and I won't use AAS again. As I've said I wasn't too well informed when I used and oral only cycles are retarded. I'm 5'7 160 so I'm pretty much just a bit built from working out and the cycles I did probably only left me with Gyno.

To respond to what Dog said I'm sorry for bringing up weed on the forum and I won't again. I appreciate the knowledge you guys on this board possess.

Sorry if I offended anyone and I don't want to be a lifter or a "dope head" I'm just a guy that wants to be in good shape and healthy.

I will add photos when the GF isn't around because she knows nothing about any of my Winstrol (winny) and dbol use.

 

[Wheatmonallstar1998]

To Shorty,

I would run the letro protocol posted all over the gyno threads in this forum. Should start the letro off low and work up to full dose (I didn't and should have). Make sure you have Nolva on hand since blocking the estro rebound seems to be the biggest part of this chemical process to maintain any results.

 

[Wheatmonallstar1998]

Heres links to pictures I took tonight. After looking at these I've realized I could shed probably 5 pounds of fat to be really lean again and perhaps my proness to a fatty chest is making my gyno a little worse. Left side is where I have the small lump which has seen a small reduction since the start of letro. When nips are warm they are only now slightly puffy since letro.

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What are your guys thoughts? (The chunks of loose skin under each pec is from when I used to be a tubby fellow)

 

[Wheatmonallstar1998]

No more big changes..may or may not be a little smaller.. seems to be a size now that is more manageable. Lump is no longer sore or hard. It felt itchy lastnight so I took a 20mg Nolva and that seemed to help? Maybe that wasn't a good idea? Joints ache and I have literally no energy. Will try to stay on letro as long as possible.

 

[Wheatmonallstar1998]

Bumpy

Did anyone check the pics I posted?

 

[essays]

Well I just checked your pics, I have to report to you brother, it's not looking good for you. Those photos appear to reveal glandular growth. That gyno is most likely going to require surgery to remove. You are quite probably putting yourself through hell without much of a hope for "cure".

Am I correct in thinking you're from the greater vancouver area, or am I thinking of someone else?

 

[Wheatmonallstar1998]

Sounds like surgery may be the best path. I'll run the letro to the end of the month and then reassess thanks.

 

[essays]

Well, you didn't answer my question, but if you're canadian, tell your doc you've had this lump since you were about 15, and it'll be covered by medical. Don't admit to steroid use. Best of luck.