Looking for a 2nd compound to add for the 2nd half of my cutting cycle.

[copaseet]

I just started the following cycle..

Week 1 to 20 - 500 mg Test E 1X week
Week 1 to 12 - 600 mg Masteron E 1 X week
Week 1 to 20 - 500iu HCG 2 X week
Week 1 to 20 - 0.5mg Adex, M, W, F

From week 12 to 20, I want to switch to a different compound, as dieting will get harder (to avoid strength/muscle loss), im thinking winstrol, but worried about the joint pain.

any suggestions would be welcome.

 

[tbonexl]

Tren

 

[copaseet]

Tren

thought about it.. but im bi-polar so ill pass.

 

[Anon44]

Anavar. I'm using it for the first time now and I love the stuff.

 

[Primoballin]

Primo

 

[Mad- scientist]

I'd go with winstrol if your joints can handle it just because primo and anavar are faked alot. If you got a legit source that you trust id go with primo or anavar both are proven to be more than capable to help you achive your cutting goals.

 

[copaseet]

I'd go with winstrol if your joints can handle it just because primo and anavar are faked alot. If you got a legit source that you trust id go with primo or anavar both are proven to be more than capable to help you achive your cutting goals.

How long before the onset of joint pain?

 

[oldmusclemike]

thought about it.. but im bi-polar so ill pass.

Very smart. I'm bi-polar type II a serious case for many years. Have done Tren twice and it can Fvck your head around. Stay away.....

I love Winstrol for shows (years ago) it will do what you want 6 weeks max.

Lower you test by 1/2 and if you can afford plug in low dose Deca 150 mgs only for joints. If diet is lean and low dose AI on board you will not hold ANY water. Winstrol at min 50 - 100 mgs EOD.

Trust me you will get Hard and Vascular. Add Cialis 5 mgs ED and you should have pipe line veins.

I'd go with winstrol if your joints can handle it just because primo and anavar are faked alot. If you got a legit source that you trust id go with primo or anavar both are proven to be more than capable to help you achive your cutting goals.

This ^^^

 

[scorob777]

Mike, wouldn't the winny be every day dosing? What would you recommend for mgs/ED?

 

[oldmusclemike]

Mike, wouldn't the winny be every day dosing? What would you recommend for mgs/ED?[/QUOTE


Oops yes my mistake , glad you caught it. I haven't done Winstrol in years to be honest but I was doing Vet Pharm grade injectable and I was doseing at 100mgs ED. Yes ED.

I'm not good at diet consult, but watch your carbs. Do not deplete , but lower them Little.

You can also add some over the counter Glucosamine for joints and I do recommend.

I gotta say in my opinion if you go this route I believe you will be happy with what you s. Now as usual diet will be so much the key. And again most important in cutting.

Also in this type of cycle your point of growth is where it is so growing mass is not so much the key work. Hardness and mic fat tissue burning is where it's at. So moderate reps to failure and beyond failure at 8 -12 as apposed to low reps.
Throw in a little aerobics after workouts also.

Hope this gets you where you want. We'll see what others chime in.

 

[Mad- scientist]

If you do decide to use winstrol I would say the joint pain would probably start around week 1. I would just be really careful while lifting on winstrol and make sure to not go to heavy and to always keep good technique. Primo is gonna have the least side effects but that really is a expensive and hard compound to find. I know alot of people hate winstrol and have gotten injured on it so id suggest if joint pain ever starts to become a problem on it quit your work out for the day and dont try to fight through the pain. Also if you feel like its causing joint pain just stop taking it. It might be a waste of money to stop but it could prevent an injury.

 

[oldmusclemike]

In all my years I have NEVER EVER heard of such emphasis or the happening of injuries to be caused by Winstrol use.

Seriously IMOP " Mad Science" I am well aware of the joint sorness but injuries , no.

Any experienced BB er and AAS user should know when to back off and NOT to just try to push and work through it.

Sorry but I take , IMOP and long time AAS user your post in regard to Winstrol to be way over the top.

Winstrol has been a favorite of the competitive and pro BB circut for many years.

Oh yeah there is No Way a steroid could ha e an effect like what you described in one week. WTF do you think any steroid can do in the first or second week? You are way off base with your assessment. I have had way too much experience to let your post go without protest.

........ Yep, OLD- musclemike