Looking for advice, first cycle at 38

[SEGMF1]

I’m 38, been training on/off for 15-17 Years (always natural), during the last year I start to notice how difficult was to keep the drive, how difficult was to recuperate even had a good diet and rest. It’s so different when I was 20, some of you understand me.

The last year was pretty good but after 8 months in a row, I quit the gym on December, due lack of drive (too much job, but mainly I didn’t notice changes even I made a lot of modifications on the diet and workout).

I took a break for 4 months..

Now a month ago I start again but I decide to include something to help me ( I realize that it’s a vicious cycle, the past 4 or 5 years, I workout during 7 or 8 months until I burn out then quit, instead try to use something to impulse the drive).

That’s why now I decide for the darkside (at 38 is better than never) then I looking for a bulking cycle.

My plan is to use
Week 1-12 T/E 500mg wkly (usual Mon-Thurs injects of 250mg)

PCT- SERM's 2 weeks after the last shot
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20/

How much affect the libido during the cycle? And after the PCT?

Stats
38
180 LB
BF 16%
5'10"
Training 5 times/wk

Thanks for your comments
and sorry for my english..

 

[Flexy Flexerson]

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I'm 39 and am doing my first cycle since 1999. I think your cycle looks good, and will make a huge impact on just about every facet of your life in and out of the gym.

I would suggest adding 250iu of HCG twice a week and your cycle looks great (although I'll be the first to admit I'm the total opposite of an expert).

I'm 6' and 217 currently at a shade under 10%BF. I'm in the 5th week of a 400mg a week Test E cycle. I started the cycle at 203 and almost 13% BF.

The nagging injuries, lack of progress, lackluster sex drive, etc, finally got to me, so I decided to finally listen to the needle's siren song. I'm glad I did....so far. We'll see how I feel about it after PCT!

 

[JayDiesel]

Looks good bro. Id say HCG isnt needed maybe get some adex .5 a day and only add if needed because idk how sensitive to estro side effects you are. Solid first cycle tho Test E 2 times a week and good post cycle therapy (pct). Libido will be increased with the test thats why Test is the base of every cycle to keep libido in check. Enanthate is a long ester so it will take 3-4 weeks or more to get the ON feeling but man its great when its there! If you are extremely sensitive to Estro I would suggest Letro which is stronger but i wouldnt run Letro or Adex for a full 12 weeks cuz that can cause other problems. Just have them on hand and use as needed.

 

[stiphy]

Good luck. Youll love it. I'll be 38 next month, just finished my first cycle of 500 test e. Its a great motivator. Not only are you seeing gains but just knowing theres more potential there because of what your taking. Really keeps you going. One thing I wish I would have done before I started was to get a blood test. That way you know what normal is for you and youll know when your recovered.

 

[stiphy]

How much affect the libido during the cycle? And after the PCT?

my libido went through the roof while on. Slowed down to normal on post cycle therapy (pct). I recovered pretty quickly. I didnt seem to have to much of a drop. Thank God.

 

[Flexy Flexerson]

stiphy,

How long ago did you finish your PCT?

Were you taking any AIs or HCG with your cycle?

 

[LoneWolfe]

You got a good first cycle planned out. Your post cycle therapy (pct) looks fine. And definitely run some hcg. Check out The DET Oak's post cycle therapy (pct) sticky, it's all laid out for you.

I didn't run hcg during my first cycle and saw my balls shrunk as the weeks went by. I wished that I had. Your balls will be nice and full with it.

 

[SEGMF1]

Honestly speaking I'm happy not to be just me in this situation, and receive a feedback from who have tried it and have a good judgment of the results. As you will understand the test levels are not the same, as the levels recovery is one of the things that most concern to me, the libido at this age is more "selective" to put it in a word, and drop to the ground would not be a desirable result any case. I realy hope to receive a "gift" from my wife after this first cycle

 

[stiphy]

stiphy,

How long ago did you finish your post cycle therapy (pct)?

Were you taking any AIs or HCG with your cycle?

I finished my post cycle therapy (pct) about 10 days ago. I got my blood test 8 days after that. I didnt use HCG (although I am going to on my next cycle). I used liquiDex from RUI while on cycle at .5 every day. I ran my post cycle therapy (pct) for 4 weeks.

 

[LoneWolfe]

Honestly speaking I'm happy not to be just me in this situation, and receive a feedback from who have tried it and have a good judgment of the results. As you will understand the test levels are not the same, as the levels recovery is one of the things that most concern to me, the libido at this age is more "selective" to put it in a word, and drop to the ground would not be a desirable result any case. I realy hope to receive a "gift" from my wife after this first cycle

If you're talking about having a child, that's something else. Perhaps someone experienced in this area can chime in. But if you're talking just about making gains in the gym and increasing libido, then test at 500mg/week is the way to go. Good luck to you either way.

 

[SEGMF1]

Styphy,

In your experience, at the beggining your levels are increased in a high %, as the body adjusts, did you experienced some steroid rage?

 

[Greens]

Libido goes through the roof.
Love it and embrace it.

hcG?...I'm 35 and choose not to use it,..why? because plain and simple I don't run more than 12 week cycles, I don't want to encourage gyno, I DIDN'T use steroids in my youth, I conduct a proper post cycle therapy (pct), and I don't run high dosages.
As for permanently shutting down my natural test production,...I'm not overly concerned, like I said, I'm 35, so if I need 150mg/week of Test for life I can deal with that,..my vasectomy was over 3.5 years ago lol.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

Cycle looks good man,im 45 and my first 2 was with test only and had awesome results,and i didnt start till i was 39.Im going to start my 3rd cycle in sept with multiple compounds,like the above OP said im on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) as well lifetime,it will def give you a boost in the gym and life in general,good luck man

 

[vught]

Yeah your definitely gonna like the test. Just don't go adding anything to it so you can see how you react to straight test. Have your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand though in the event bloat or gyno pop up. Try not to over stress your tendons & ligaments as your strength gains come which is easy to do.
You will be wanting to have sex 3 times a day which can be good or bad depending on your chosen partner. I can go 15 minutes later which is pillow talk time after my 1st orgasm & I'm in my 40"s. Enjoy the cycle & keep your diet particulary your sodium intake in check. Finally have your pct laid out beforehand.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

good thread! if all thread were as this one, it would be the paradize.

good infos, good help as a brotherhood!

and i agree with the advises above

 

[stiphy]

Styphy,

In your experience, at the beggining your levels are increased in a high %, as the body adjusts, did you experienced some steroid rage?

No, no steroid rage. From what Ive read (true or not I dont know), a lot of the rage is brought on by the increase in estogen. Just like when a woman PMS's because of increased estrogen. If you keep your estrogen in check, you shouldnt have those issues. I ran an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during cycle to keep my estrogen levels low. Others may be able to chime in on this with other opinions but it made sense when I read it. I really didnt see any adverse conditions while on cycle. No mood swings, no hair loss (taking finasteride and Rogain), no gyno. The only small issues I had was oily skin for about 2 days and itchy nipples for about a week.

 

[stiphy]

Yeah your definitely gonna like the test. Just don't go adding anything to it so you can see how you react to straight test. Have your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand though in the event bloat or gyno pop up. Try not to over stress your tendons & ligaments as your strength gains come which is easy to do. You will be wanting to have sex 3 times a day which can be good or bad depending on your chosen partner. I can go 15 minutes later which is pillow talk time after my 1st orgasm & I'm in my 40"s. Enjoy the cycle & keep your diet particulary your sodium intake in check. Finally have your pct laid out beforehand.

Agreed.

 

[DADAWG]

Styphy,

In your experience, at the beggining your levels are increased in a high %, as the body adjusts, did you experienced some steroid rage?

welcome to OLOGY

99% of steroid rage cases involve guys that were allready assholes that are using the steroids as a excuse to be a even bigger asshole.look at it like this , on a test cycle your strength will go up /you will add muscle / you will get horny as hell , it should be the happiest time of your life lol.

based on your 1st post and the way your describe lack of gains and lack of drive your natural test production may be in the crapper. after your cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) wait a few more months to fully recover and get your blood work done to see if your a candidate for Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) / testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) .

 

[Thedude67]

I agree with stiphy u gotta keep estro in check or ur libido will b in the tank. I found out real fast when my estro got to high.

 

[DADAWG]

I agree with stiphy u gotta keep estro in check or ur libido will b in the tank. I found out real fast when my estro got to high.

if you push estrogen to low its just as bad for you . moderation is the key.