Looking for advice from regulars

[IvanN]

Currently 200lbs, 5"10, BF20%, Have used gear before but not for roughly 5 years now, never did any PCT back then,
ran about 5 x 12 week cycles of deca/sus/dianabol with roughly 12 weeks on/off.

Looking for advice on a good trade-off cycle, as well as PCT.

 

[andyjames]

what do you mean by trade off cycle?

and the standard protocol pct is
nolvadex 40 20 20 20
clomid 100 50 50 50
so thats all week 1 then drop the dosage down for the last 3 weejs

 

[riprockwell]

Personally, I wouldn't recommend cycling until you get that body fat down to at least 14%. Just my 2 cents. As for cycling, definitely stick around and read all the stickies and you will be able to plan a good cycle.

 

[IvanN]

I think that the lack of PCT back then may have caused some problems, im carrying a bit of fat around the moobs, but muscle memory is getting me back fast.

by trade off i meant - maintain weight but trade fat for muscle. My weight seems to stay in the 190-200 range, when i lose muscle, it remains in that range, when i gain muscle the same applies.

could i benefit from a win/test/b12 stack ?

 

[andyjames]

did you run a aromatize inhibiter or a dopamine agonist when doin your cycles to prevent estrogen or progestrone sides

and winnys just for hardening reqlly i think you would benifit better from a test tren and Winstrol (winny) cycle more as trens good for fat burning and quality muscle or maybe throw some t3 or clen

 

[IvanN]

back then i was rather ignorant, I just got my hands on gear and ran with it. Never used any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or dopamine agonist, no pct. I gained about 20lbs off my last deca sus cycle.

an old training partner suggested i try tren/test - but from everything im reading, im really just afraid of the sides - not having geared for years really makes me a beginner again. Could you recommend a beginner stack, id like to ease into it and journal my experiences from the various products. Or could i use Tren/Test at low dosages for a first time ?

Could you recommend a Trent/Test cycle, with pct ?

 

[IvanN]

Im going to lay off the Tren until ive completed a few courses. Im thinking the following for a first time in many years -

Weeks 1-8 Test Cyp 600mg
Weeks 1-10 Equipoise 300mg
Weeks 7-12 Winstrol 50mg eod
Weeks 9-12 Test Prop 100mg eod

The switch from Cypionate to Propionate at the end will allow the PCT process to begin approximately 3 days after last injection.

PCT
10 days Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 350iu ed
then 2 weeks of nolvadex 40mg ed
then 2 weeks of nolvadex 20mg ed

Comments ?

 

[andyjames]

Sorry was in work mate

You could run test 600 and tren at 300 but its up to you leave it for now if you dont feel ready

And as for your proposed cycle test eq etc
Thats fine but the only thing i would suggest is get some arimidex at 0.25mg every other day
Dont use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in pct use it 250 twice a week on cycle
And get some clomid with your nopvadex for pct and run it like this

Nolva ..40 20 20 20
clomid..100 50 50 50

so thays run it high the first week then half it for the remaining three
Have a good cycle good luck feel free to ask anymore questions you have

 

[IvanN]

Would i run arimidex eod for the full 12 weeks ?

thanks bro, getting my gear next week. will let you know how it goes.

 

[snowpatrol123]

Yes, adex eod at .25mg-.5mg depending on your estrogen levels/sides

 

[juced_porkchop]

Currently 200lbs, 5"10, BF20%, Have used gear before but not for roughly 5 years now, never did any PCT back then,
ran about 5 x 12 week cycles of deca/sus/dianabol with roughly 12 weeks on/off.

Looking for advice on a good trade-off cycle, as well as PCT.

google "carb cycling for fatloss" get BF% to atleast 15% IMO.

cycle when ready:
12-14 weeks teste or cyp 500mg ew
wk1-14 Aromatase inhibitor (AI) Dex 0.5mg eod
wk14-18 PCt: 35-50mg clomid ed and 20mg tamox ed

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