Looking for some good feedback

[DJcrew2000]

Ok just wanted to run this by some knowledgeable people, and get your thoughts. I'm 33, 5'9, 178, 13%bf, and fairly lean. My goal is to be about 180 to 175 shredded and strong with some gain in muscle mass that can be kept. I've been researching and reading a lot of different things, and this is not my first cycle. I was thinking I want to run anavar 10-12 weeks at 50mg, and about week 3 start on Winstrol (winny) for 8 weeks at 50mg, also as a cutter I wanted to run the icyplex(yohimbine, clen combo) 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off for the duration of the cycle. I have been told by some very good people to run 250ml of test enthanate(weekly) as well, but I'm really on the fence about getting into anything else. Please I would love some feedback on this. Thx in advance.

 

[bigcac13]

I think you can get what you want be talking to 3J in the dieting forum bc you're not wanting to put on any mass judging by you saying you only want to be 180 to 175 and you're at 178.

We will see what the others say bc I'm no expert.

 

[hatesnoobs]

Ye, since you don't want to gain alot of mass i think your goals are completely achievable by proper diet and training, i would recommend heading over to diet section. Once you reach 180 shredded look and you think you want more - then look into aas.

 

[DADAWG]

Ok just wanted to run this by some knowledgeable people, and get your thoughts. I'm 33, 5'9, 178, 13%bf, and fairly lean. My goal is to be about 180 to 175 shredded and strong with some gain in muscle mass that can be kept. I've been researching and reading a lot of different things, and this is not my first cycle. I was thinking I want to run ana Anavar (var) 10-12 weeks at 50mg, and about week 3 start on Winstrol (winny) for 8 weeks at 50mg, also as a cutter I wanted to run the icyplex(yohimbine, clen combo) 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off for the duration of the cycle. I have been told by some very good people to run 250ml of test enthanate(weekly) as well, but I'm really on the fence about getting into anything else. Please I would love some feedback on this. Thx in advance.

welcome to ology

that cycle is awfull 12 weeks of oral steroid AND takeing 2 17a steroids at the same time is a terrible idea for your livers health.

at 33 i dont have a problem with a little shortcut to get your goals by running a cycle but 400-600 mg a week of test for 10-12 weeks along with the Anavar (var) for about 6 weeks of that should blow you up above even your goals with a decent diet and after pct and recovery a little dieting will shred you up.use a anti estrogen during the cycle to keep bloat off as necessary.
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[THE-DET-OAK]

^^^^ yup the test will allow you to keep your muscle while dieting

 

[bigcac13]

He doesn't want to blow up he wants to stay at pretty much the same weight from what he put. I agree with Hatesnoobs once you do get shredded and if you do want to put on more muscle then you can use aas.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

He doesn't want to blow up he wants to stay at pretty much the same weight from what he put. I agree with Hatesnoobs once you do get shredded and if you do want to put on more muscle then you can use aas.

it doesnt matter what u take-your not gonna blow up on a restricted diet......if you diet without test.........its very easy to lose hard earned muscle

 

[DJcrew2000]

Yes I was concerned about runnin 2 orals as well, and it is very true that diet can take away muscle mass. Last 2 years I ran the oral prohormone Tren Extreme, and had absolutely amazing results. I was shredded at about 185lbs, but that weight was slightly high for playing Bball, it felt heavy on the joints, mobility wise. My goal this year is to weigh slightly under 180 and be shredded even more then last year. So would I be best off running some type tren, either oral or acetate, with icyplex to reach best results. A few side notes I'm taking into consideration, I'm having some serious joint pains. Also my training and diet are 100% on point down to the gram.

 

[RJ]

Yes I was concerned about runnin 2 orals as well, and it is very true that diet can take away muscle mass. Last 2 years I ran the oral prohormone Tren Extreme, and had absolutely amazing results. I was shredded at about 185lbs, but that weight was slightly high for playing Bball, it felt heavy on the joints, mobility wise. My goal this year is to weigh slightly under 180 and be shredded even more then last year. So would I be best off running some type tren, either oral or acetate, with icyplex to reach best results. A few side notes I'm taking into consideration, I'm having some serious joint pains. Also my training and diet are 100% on point down to the gram.

you already are 'slighlty under 180'... WTF?

You don't need juice, especially if your a ball player. Just get your diet straight and you'll be ripped. And if your joints are hurting now, adding AAS isn't gonna help in my opinion as you're strength will increase faster than your joints/tendons/cartilage can catch up which could result in more joint pain.

Get your diet in check, shred yourself up, who cares how much you weigh anyway. If you were ripped and shredded and looked better than you do now but only weighed 170lbs... would you care?

 

[DJcrew2000]

I hear your point, and actually I feel like my muscle mass is not good enough at a shredded 170, been there through natural diet. I've been shredded at 183 while using the Tren and I felt like it was really good. I'd like to take that a step further and be even more cut, like getting down to about 7% body fat. My diet is never a problem I'm always decently cut, but I want the next level. As far as joints I'm considering other variables such as Deca or possibly even a low dosage of HGH depending on how much the problem persist. I'm very open to suggestion though.

 

[DJcrew2000]

In response to Dadawg comments. You are right on par with my friends recommendation. He has been bodybuilding for years and is really big on adding the test. His suggestion is 250ml of test a week combined with the full 8 weeks of Anavar (var) at 50mg a day. My question for you is would it be better just to bypass all the combo stuff and go right into the Tren? I already know how my body will react, and it will give me all the desired results. The reason I'm now considering the Icyplex is because it can be used as a spot reducer, which is news to me.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

no bro-if your gonna run something-just run test @ 500mg a week-250 is useless

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

you dont need all that other shit-i mean Anavar (var) is mild so if you wanted to throw that in-whatever-but nothing else