Looking to start first cycle

[trapvillain]

Age-21
Height 5' 10"
Weight-165 pounds
BF- ~12
Years training serious- 4
Bodytype-ecto
Diet-4 balanced meals 2 shakes
Goal-Gain 10-20 pounds LBM

Hi I'm sure this thread will be breaking some "read this first rules sticky or something" but I just want some opinions on what is a good first cycle.

I do plan on researching for at least four months before I decide to use. But i have to start somewhere right?

I plan on something like
Test Enanthate Week 1-12 400-500mg
HCG week 10-14 (need help with this)
PCT week 12-16 (need help with this)
No oral's
I'm most concerned with gyno/acne and test production/ depression.

As I said I can admit I have little knowledge on any of this and any links or opinions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I plan on something like
Test Enanthate Week 1-12 500mg
HCG week 13-14
PCT week 15-18 (clomid)

your too young-but if you do it- ^^^ thats how you should do it.

 

[trapvillain]

thanks you for your experienced opinion. please explain how im too young? i always heard 21-22 was a good starting age, also i feel im close to my genetic natural potential, well actually i was at 180 but my cardio was horrible. i dont understand this age thing at all...

also i feel like im missing something in the cycle, such as something during the cycle to prevent side effects like gyno, any advice, im reading as much as i can before i do anything stupid.

one more thing how do you take hcg? is it oral or injectable?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i mean the age thing is gonna be your call. IMO unless someone is using AAS to further themselves in an athletic program, or has a chance to go somewhere as a professional BBer, then 25 should be the starting age. its not just about growth plates and all that shit-its about your mental capacity, as it changes monumentally from age 21-25.

HCG is injected into the subcutaneous tissue. you can run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during your cycle in an attempt to keep estrogen at normal levels. thats a decision you have to make through extensive research on the subject.

 

[trapvillain]

ok well i respect your opinion and when i think ive done enough research ill make my decision. thanks again!

 

[Teutonic]

...and he s off and running....watch a think Oak ? He knows enough to hurt himself..think he ll wait ???

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

no-but he needs to do more research on AI's SERM's and HCG before starting-thats for sure.

he is gonna do it-21 isnt that bad-its just hard to say without knowing someone personally-how serious they are ya know?

 

[Teutonic]

I was both that young and dumber..which is why I m so fucked up now...
Hopefully he will fare better than I.
Patience o .p...do this right.

 

[trapvillain]

...and he s off and running....watch a think Oak ? He knows enough to hurt himself..think he ll wait ???

indeed, at the earliest ill start at 22, its been a lifelong struggle of mine to stay natural as i am very serious about bodybuilding, not competing though, im kind of like vic richards all about becoming the best i can.

no-but he needs to do more research on AI's SERM's and HCG before starting-thats for sure.

he is gonna do it-21 isnt that bad-its just hard to say without knowing someone personally-how serious they are ya know?

very serious

i assure you im gonna be researching until i believe i have a broad knowledge on all aspects of this, and then ill study just to be a nerd like i always do

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

good for you bro-just when you think you know everything, something happens to let you know how much more you have to learn.

 

[trapvillain]

good for you bro-just when you think you know everything, something happens to let you know how much more you have to learn.

thats why i came here

in all seriousness i will pay attention to and appreciate ANY advice you can give (although i'm starting young)

do you have maybe some bad experience or story i might learn from, I'm trying to learn everything i can!

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

nope-test only cycles are relatively safe-just do your research on the ancillaries because there is no set in stone way to run them-so by learning as much as you can-you will be able to find out what way works best for you. hit up the articles forum and read the stickies in there, should keep you busy for a couple of weeks