looking to start first cycle

[j9899]

I'm 23 years old, 5'10" and 174 lbs at 14% bf.I've been lifting for 3 years now and have obtained some descent results: went from 145 to 174. Most of my lifts are pretty good: bench-290, squat-400,DL-465. I feel I am probably done growing now because both of my parents stopped at a younger age and I've not grown any more since the age of 19. I'm looking to start my first cycle and was wondering what your thoughts are on that as well as a couple cycle plans.

I'm really wanting to run a shorter cycle first and was thinking dbol 1-6 weeks at 30mg and test prop 1-6 or 1-8 weeks at 100mg EOD. I would also use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle(250 iu E4D), arimidex(.25 mg E3D), and nolva 20/20/20/10/10 for PCT.

If that's not a good plan I will probably go with this:

Test E-weeks 1-12 at 500mg week
dbol-weeks 1-4 at 30mg/day
HCG- weeks 3-14 at 250 iu E4D(
A-dex- .25 mg E3D

PCT
Nolva-20/20/20/10/10
Aromasin- 12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5
Vitamin C-3 grams a day

I'd really like the shorter one first, but if that's not a good plan what about the second plan?

 

[GetBig13]

Cycles don't seem bad and definitely respect some research took place.

In all honesty I always reccomend once substance to be used for your first to see how you react to it and so you learn what's doin what for you.

I'd stick to 500mgs 12wks w out dbol for a first.

 

[slair]

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I would certainly reccomend your second plan as its ussually the tried and true first cycle. Although prop works well, I don't think 6 weeks is quite worth shutting yourself down. Also keep in mind, if you've never pinned before, it can be slightly overwhelming at first and eod injects might be alittle much.

i'd reccomend dropping the dbol altogether for your first cycle. You should gain well off the test alone, and if you happen to get any sides, you'll want to know whats causing them.

As for your pct... I'd reccomend having clomid 50/50/50/50 and possibly nolva 40/40/20/20. Thats ussually standard protocal but i think you'd probly be fine without the nolva.

Remember your gains on your cycle are very dependant on diet. Before you decide to make the plunge, i'd be sure to have my diet in check before starting. Many on here will also say you could make more natural gains first. 174 at 14% leaves you with about 150 lbs of lean mass at 5'10. Do you think you can achieve more naturally?

 

[Jack Tors]

Gtg

 

[mispronounced]

What's your reasoning for aromasin on post cycle therapy (pct)? I've heard you shouldnt do AI's during post cycle therapy (pct) since it slows recovery. I could be wrong though, just wondering

 

[Jazzyloc]

Hey watsup, im a 22 yr old girl from new york. I am interested in steroids. But honestly, i know nothing about them. I know two different people that got it. But i dont wanna eff my body up. So i would like some advice please, on what i should look for, and how i should take it.. Thanks. I just dont trust the guys selling it. They will say anything to get their money... Im trying to gain wieght build muscle. Im 5'5 140lbs. I wanna be 160lbs with alot of muscle. Not too crazy though. Can u guys help me out

 

[mispronounced]

Hey watsup, im a 22 yr old girl from new york. I am interested in steroids. But honestly, i know nothing about them. I know two different people that got it. But i dont wanna eff my body up. So i would like some advice please, on what i should look for, and how i should take it.. Thanks. I just dont trust the guys selling it. They will say anything to get their money... Im trying to gain wieght build muscle. Im 5'5 140lbs. I wanna be 160lbs with alot of muscle. Not too crazy though. Can u guys help me out

Do some research on your own first. I suggest reading all the stickies on this site, and googling some information on your own.

Then if you have specific questions, we will be able to help you. IMO, whenever someone comes into the forums saying "I wanna juice, what do I do?" they aren't mature enough to use. I've been researching for about 9 months and I am still learning more each day. Welcome to the forums, keep learning bud

 

[josh223]

Hey watsup, im a 22 yr old girl from new york. I am interested in steroids. But honestly, i know nothing about them. I know two different people that got it. But i dont wanna eff my body up. So i would like some advice please, on what i should look for, and how i should take it.. Thanks. I just dont trust the guys selling it. They will say anything to get their money... Im trying to gain wieght build muscle. Im 5'5 140lbs. I wanna be 160lbs with alot of muscle. Not too crazy though. Can u guys help me out

Try making your own post (new thread). I am sure you will get plenty of help there