Low Test / "High" Tren + T-bol: AI Question

[R9]

Suppose a guy is on a nice little TRT dose of 133mg/wk (66.6mg twice a week) of Test C. At this dose his E2 is perfect without any AI (confirmed recently (yesterday in fact)).

Suppose further that this guy starts a cycle with a starter dose of tren (50mg ED) and some delicious Turinabol (80mg ED) on top of the same TRT dose. -Prami started at .25mg/day.

It's my understanding that neither Tren nor Tbol aromatize, therefore is there any sense in using an AI?



I have in my head that sticking with the known Test dose I'm eliminating a big variable with the E2, just want to sanity check my theory with some of you vets/geniuses.

 

[Norsegod]

Have it on hand just in case and get bloods done a few weeks in

 

[smittiot]

If E2 is in check would you even need the prami?

 

[R9]

Have it on hand just in case and get bloods done a few weeks in

My plan exactly. Thanks!

 

[R9]

If E2 is in check would you even need the prami?

Great question to which I wasn't able to find a conclusive answer. I finally decided that everyone takes an AI *and* a dopamiine antagonist so it's probably necessary... Open to ideas on that theory.

 

[Kazmir]

Great question to which I wasn't able to find a conclusive answer. I finally decided that everyone takes an AI *and* a dopamiine antagonist so it's probably necessary... Open to ideas on that theory.

Its hard to say as it is user specific and its going to be a trial to see where you stand. Myself I can tell you that no matter the dose of deca and tren I always have high prolactin levels even with E2 in range so I need an antagonist all the time. My suggestion to you would be run a DA as I am more of a preventative person than a deal with it if it arises kind a guy. But there is nothing wrong with not running it and having it on hand in case as long as your having bloods done and will be able to check prolactin levels.

 

[R9]

Its hard to say as it is user specific and its going to be a trial to see where you stand. Myself I can tell you that no matter the dose of deca and tren I always have high prolactin levels even with E2 in range so I need an antagonist all the time. My suggestion to you would be run a DA as I am more of a preventative person than a deal with it if it arises kind a guy. But there is nothing wrong with not running it and having it on hand in case as long as your having bloods done and will be able to check prolactin levels.

Amen. As Grandma9 used to say: a quarter milligram of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

 

[XELFLEC]

Nothing worse than having high estrogen and lactating.
Better safe than sorry

 

[308power]

In my experience, if your e2 is good to go, you are good to go. Have to have elevated e2 to have elevated postcursors such as prolactin or progesterone.

 

[R9]

In my experience, if your e2 is good to go, you are good to go. Have to have elevated e2 to have elevated postcursors such as prolactin or progesterone.

That makes sense to me. I just found so many anecdotes and suggestions to use DA. I wonder if it's cases of people having E2 "in range" but still higher than their body would like.

 

[Transporter]

In my experience, if your e2 is good to go, you are good to go. Have to have elevated e2 to have elevated postcursors such as prolactin or progesterone.

^^^ what he said !!

 

[R9]

^^^ what he said !!

There's also a lot of people saying this in this current thread: wtf prami fked me up hard

Man, what a great way to blast if I can get away with not using any ancillaries -assuming tren agrees with me.

 

[R9]

Suppose a guy is on a nice little TRT dose of 133mg/wk (66.6mg twice a week) of Test C. At this dose his E2 is perfect without any AI (confirmed recently (yesterday in fact)).

Suppose further that this guy starts a cycle with a starter dose of tren (50mg ED) and some delicious Turinabol (80mg ED) on top of the same TRT dose. -Prami started at .25mg/day.

It's my understanding that neither Tren nor Tbol aromatize, therefore is there any sense in using an AI?



I have in my head that sticking with the known Test dose I'm eliminating a big variable with the E2, just want to sanity check my theory with some of you vets/geniuses.

The answer is that in week three my E2 is way too high. Don't know why, but it's 509.8pg/ml on a scale of 7.6-42.6 pg/mL. Having a nice tall frosty glass of adex as soon as I get home.